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'Sub owner said I was stupid' says Jewish billionaire offered place on Titan
Jewish Chronicle ^ | June 27, 3023 | Staff

Posted on 06/27/2023 12:38:07 PM PDT by xxqqzz

Jewish billionaire Jay Bloom says he and his son Sean were offered two seats on the ill-fated Titan submersible but declined to join over safety concerns and scheduling issues.

The American real estate developer, who is based in Las Vegas, said Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman ended up taking their available seats.

Dawood and his son were among the five people who died instantly when the submersible imploded on a mission to explore the wreck of the Titanic in the North Atlantic.

“Every time I see a picture of that Pakistani businessman and his 19-year-old son, I think how easily that could have been me and my 20-year-old son – but for the grace of God,” Bloom told Reuters.

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KEYWORDS: canada; implosion; jaybloom; jewish; lasvegas; nevada; oceangate; oceangateexpeditions; pakistan; seanbloom; shahzadadawood; stocktonrush; sulemandawood; titan; titanic
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To: HerrBlucher
I think it was the mating of two dissimilar materials, carbon fiber and titanium, plus all the compression cycles it had gone through before the final trip. I think prior to this fatal trip the sub had gone down to the Titanic at least seven times.

I only know what I've been hearing from others who are experts, but one thing that really jumped out at me was that the one viewing port/hatch was not rated for the depth, and that at depth the viewport deflected inwards over an inch.

Yikes!

21 posted on 06/27/2023 1:18:47 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: HerrBlucher

“And the controller was wireless, what could go wrong?”

There was also a touch screen but details are lacking.


22 posted on 06/27/2023 1:26:46 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Yo-Yo

Yep, the viewing port was only rated down to 1300 m.


23 posted on 06/27/2023 1:27:46 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: xxqqzz

Sounds like the sub tours were basically dangled as bait to lure investors.

If I was a billionaire, I am not sure a private ride down to the Titanic on an untested sub built by amateurs using novel methods and materials would be enticing, but it obviously was to some.


24 posted on 06/27/2023 1:40:10 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: xxqqzz

“He who breathes last, breathes best.”


25 posted on 06/27/2023 1:42:44 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

26 posted on 06/27/2023 1:42:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Boogieman

” untested sub “

It underwent a year of testing and nine previous dives to the Titanic.


27 posted on 06/27/2023 1:43:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: sjmjax

I would have gone with a salvaged trackball from a Q-bert arcade game, but that’s just me.


28 posted on 06/27/2023 1:45:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: z3n
That sub design probably would have held up just fine in the vacuum of space, where the forces of pressurization exert and outward force on the hull, but even though they are the opposite the forces can’t possible as the inward compressive forces of deep sea pressures on the hull.

Yep. Think of it this way: The maximum possible pressure differential between the outside (space) and inside of a spacecraft pressure vessel is one atmosphere (assuming normal atmospheric pressure inside). But the pressure differential at Titanic’s depth is about 400 atmospheres. HUGE difference in the strength needed to maintain structural integrity. And you’re right, there is also the difference between trying to contain the pressure inside versus standing up to pressure from outside. That requires different material characteristics.

29 posted on 06/27/2023 1:46:27 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: TexasGator

“It underwent a year of testing and nine previous dives to the Titanic.”

Yet it is patently obviously to everyone now that this was not sufficient to test the design, isn’t it?


30 posted on 06/27/2023 1:46:31 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: HerrBlucher

“Yep, the viewing port was only rated down to 1300 m.”

That is what has been stated by a person that left the company in 2018.


31 posted on 06/27/2023 1:48:43 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: HerrBlucher
Yep, the viewing port was only rated down to 1300 m.

Physics is so outdated. It’s the science of the past, and likely racist, too. Everyone knows that anything new that a “progressive” dreams up is automatically superior to whatever came before, especially because those “old” things were likely invented by racist white males.

On the other hand, maybe there’s a reason that all other deep-diving subs have viewports no bigger than drink coasters.

32 posted on 06/27/2023 1:58:58 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: HerrBlucher

Ya but they had glue!

I told him to use name brand Super Glue but did he listen?

NOOoooOOOoo, he had to save penny....


33 posted on 06/27/2023 2:01:21 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: xxqqzz

Like the black boxer who was the victim of racial discrimination. He couldn’t get a ticket for the maiden voyage of the Titanic.


34 posted on 06/27/2023 2:01:54 PM PDT by omega4412
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To: proust
Common sense is now newsworthy.

Sorry - but that's spooky and not a good thing.

35 posted on 06/27/2023 2:16:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Black dem thugs, white liberal 'elites', & sexual weirdos - democrat's team against the rest of us)
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To: Boogieman
"built by token, woke, ideological, amateurs" Fixed it for you. ;-)
36 posted on 06/27/2023 2:20:21 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Land is simply a place I visit until I can return to the sea.)
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To: TexasGator

Your procedural objections have convinced me thoroughly. The sub is perfectly safe. Where do I sign up for the next dive?


37 posted on 06/27/2023 2:21:09 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: GOPJ

Just trust the science if you can define Science.


38 posted on 06/27/2023 2:40:38 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: TexasGator

Actually the Titan had only made 3 dives to the Titantic.
It had made other dives but only to the depth of the Titanic 3 times


39 posted on 06/27/2023 2:45:59 PM PDT by RWGinger (LGB)
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To: z3n
"A more spherical shape would have been a better design for compressive forces."

Yeah, but you can't cram in as many dupes at $200,000 a pop.

40 posted on 06/27/2023 2:47:53 PM PDT by Flag_This
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