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Biden’s Billion Dollar Hydrogen Program Makes No ‘Economic Or Common Sense,’ Industry Experts Say
Daily Caller ^ | July 06, 2023 5:12 PM ET | JOHN HUGH DEMASTRI

Posted on 07/07/2023 6:02:59 AM PDT by Red Badger

The Biden administration announced plans Wednesday to invest up to $1 billion in “clean hydrogen,” an expensive fuel source that requires significant infrastructure to support it that would be unlikely to get significant private investment if not for government intervention in the energy sector, industry experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Department of Energy (DOE) announcement stated the administration’s intent to invest the funds into Regional Clean Hydrogen Hubs for the widespread deployment of the technology, with a particular focus on providing “demand-side support” to encourage buyers to come forward and support hydrogen projects, according to the agency’s press release. These demand-side incentives are necessary in part because “clean” or “green” hydrogen must be manufactured using renewable energy sources, a much more expensive process than using fossil fuels, Dan Kish, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Energy Research told the DCNF.

“If these things made economic or common sense, people would be doing them,” Kish told the DCNF. “They don’t, so the government is mandating and subsidizing them while knee-capping energy sources they can afford.”

Even if the Biden administration is able to push the cost of green hydrogen down via subsidies, investors and buyers have expressed concern that there might not be enough supply of green hydrogen to make the transition away from fossil fuels worth it, E&E News reported. The process of manufacturing green hydrogen — known as electrolysis — converts water into hydrogen using renewable power, and the hydrogen it generates is nearly 14 times as expensive as natural gas to generate the same amount of power, Isaac Orr, a policy fellow at the Center of the American Experiment told the DCNF.

While proponents of green hydrogen “envision massive facilities” using electrolysis, such facilities are not cost-effective, Jonathan Lesser, an adjunct fellow at the Manhattan Institute studying energy, told the DCNF. In addition, hydrogen is difficult to transport, because it can damage the steel used in existing oil and gas pipelines and has the potential to leak, creating an explosion risk, said Lesser.

Due to the high cost of manufacturing green hydrogen, “there are no large-scale plants that use this,” Lesser told the DCNF. He also noted that plants would need to have a steady supply of water and that hydrogen is less dense than traditional fuel sources and would take up more space.

The Biden administration in May proposed a set of regulations that would require large “baseload” natural gas and coal-fired power plants to either capture their carbon emissions or switch to burning mostly hydrogen by 2038.

“The administration likely favors hydrogen over [carbon capture] because it means more wind and solar will be deployed to create the hydrogen and provide fuel for peaking resources when the wind isn’t blowing, or the sun isn’t shining,” said Orr. “The Administration is keen to use carrots and sticks to force the grid to transition to less reliable energy sources.”

Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said that the new funding would help clear up “market uncertainty” around clean hydrogen that “too often delays progress,” in the agency’s Wednesday press release.

The DOE did not immediately respond to a DCNF request for comment.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenvoters; carbondioxide; dementiajoe; hydrogen; racket; scam
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To: Red Badger

Here is a total shootdown of the use of hydrogen to power autos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJjKwSF9gT8


41 posted on 07/07/2023 8:00:18 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: bankwalker

Gasoline does the same thing in vapor form


42 posted on 07/07/2023 8:12:22 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: Libloather

Indeed Biden was at the lower end of his classes for a reason.


43 posted on 07/07/2023 8:13:41 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: The Duke

Excellent analysis of problems with hydrogen (especially as a fuel source for combustion engines: range and fuel storage).

In other words, industry experts are right about this big government boondoggle. Crony capitalism at its most ludicrous levels.


44 posted on 07/07/2023 8:30:59 AM PDT by aligncare ( Make America Great Again…Trump 2024)
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To: Red Badger

Hydrogen makes no sense period. BUT there is free taxpayer money to be given away to huge corporations.


45 posted on 07/07/2023 8:45:12 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Red Badger; All

BMW and more so Toyota are working on developing hydrogen fueled cars.


46 posted on 07/07/2023 9:14:42 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: Red Badger

Biden’s advisors must have realized that using huge battery farms to store excess electricity from solar and wind farms wasn’t going to work, so they’re putting this out. Hydrogen is made, stored and used there to generate electricity.

Presto! Green energy!


47 posted on 07/07/2023 10:44:09 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: William of Barsoom

I think you need to redo your work. Burning hydrogen yields only H2O...not sure where you came up with CO2.


48 posted on 07/07/2023 2:53:10 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: alloysteel

Thise small Nuke Electric generators are a very good answer.

Being used already overseas somewhere.

Very efficient and safe.


49 posted on 07/07/2023 11:34:20 PM PDT by Syncro (God is Good--Facts is Facts)
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To: dinodino

Easy. (1) I’m an idiot. (2) I had only two sips of my morning covfefe when I wrote that bonehead comment.

In my weak and candy-ass defense, I will say it might not be long before some moron greater than me reminds us all of the terrors regarding the dangerous chemical, Di-Hydrogen Oxide.


50 posted on 07/08/2023 5:29:39 AM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: William of Barsoom

And what is the number 1 greenhouse gas? Water vapor.


51 posted on 07/09/2023 8:55:08 PM PDT by willyd
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To: Red Badger

Hydrogen makes WAY more sense than electric cars.


52 posted on 07/09/2023 8:56:52 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

But not in favor of big govt subsidies


53 posted on 07/09/2023 8:57:24 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

It takes more energy to produce the hydrogen than you get from its use.

The Laws of Thermodynamics will not be broken...................


54 posted on 07/10/2023 5:15:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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