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Ford Keeps Losing More Money Making Electric Cars No One Wants
Front Page Mag ^ | 7/28/23 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/28/2023 9:25:24 AM PDT by CFW

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To: Callahan
Ford Lightning range is 210 miles with 1400lbs.

Car and Driver found that towing a 6100 lb trailer dropped the range to 100 miles. Unloaded highway range was 230 miles. This was with the Platinum trim and extended range battery. The EPA range is supposed to be 320 miles.

61 posted on 07/28/2023 10:35:11 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: BJ1

“I doubt you’ll see Toyota do an about face and go all in on electric - battery cars.”


Indeed, despite Japanese government efforts, FCVs remain far less popular than EVs both in and outside Japan. While 2.1 million EVs were sold worldwide in 2019, Toyota has only managed to sell 11,000 units of the Mirai from its launch in November 2014 to February 2021, hampered by its inability to sell it outside Japan and California, the only places where Toyota deemed a dense enough concentration of hydrogen fueling stations to be available.

https://asiatimes.com/2021/09/japan-may-be-on-road-to-nowhere-with-hydrogen-vehicles/


62 posted on 07/28/2023 10:39:18 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: fwdude

No, the actually have a truck called the Maverick. Based on the Escape chassis, and drivetrain. There is an electric version, but as far as I know, it’s a hybrid with a gas motor to help get you there. I could be wrong.

Were it me buying the Maverick, I’d opt for the ordinary 2.0 L turbo 4, as it’s the highest horsepower of all the offerings and it’s a proven engine.


63 posted on 07/28/2023 10:44:16 AM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: offduty
Did the BMW EV have problems in the Michigan cold? I've read of many problems with EV owners who liked their EV when they bought them in the late spring...but hated them in the winter north.

In our parts of the country there are plenty of fast chargers to get us from Alabama to Texas or to Florida or Louisiana or any other trips we've made. It took a few minutes of planning to find the chargers before the trip (much like using maps back in the pre-GPS days). We've looked at a long road trip to the northeast and see plenty of chargers for that trip. But that's the densely populated east coast. I'm sure if we visited family in the midwest we'd have to take the ICE pickup.

Yeah, last year a lot of the EV's had sky high prices. Part of that was fad --- on top of the artificially inflated prices from govt stimulus (which inflated them more with the Inflation Raising Act). It was a bad time to buy an EV last year unless it was just the right time for you anyway (i.e. the car you're replacing was on its last legs). And even then it depends on how many miles you put on it to get enough gas savings. (For us we've put 29K miles on it in the 13 months we've owned it, with maybe 26K of those miles charged at home. Obviously for us it was more than a toy.) Now that EV prices have come down a bit I still wouldn't suggest getting one unless you drive it at least 15K miles per year. I'm just being practical about gas and oil change savings vs extra costs of an EV. Not hating EV's, nor thinking they're saving the world. Just looking at when they're best for a person's use case.

64 posted on 07/28/2023 10:49:04 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: CFW

I’m in the process of buying a new car. I want some kind of SUV compact hybrid. Every time I go to a lot they try to steer me to an EV and it’s astounding. I I tell them right off the bat I do not want an EV I will not buy an EV and yet they still try.


65 posted on 07/28/2023 10:53:10 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Callahan

I can’t speak for 1400 pounds, but my F-150 3.5L twin turbo has a range of over 700 miles on a tank of gas. Granted, it’s a big tank, but that’s hard to beat.

That said, I generally take my 3 cylinder Escape for long trips. Something about 33-34 mpg versus 20-22 with the truck.


66 posted on 07/28/2023 10:55:14 AM PDT by meyer (FBI = KGB for the DNC; IRS = Gestapo)
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To: CFW

I’m in the process of buying a new car. I want some kind of SUV compact hybrid. Every time I go to a lot they try to steer me to an EV and it’s astounding. I I tell them right off the bat I do not want an EV I will not buy an EV and yet they still try.


67 posted on 07/28/2023 10:58:02 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: meyer

“There is an electric version, but as far as I know, it’s a hybrid with a gas motor to help get you there.”

On a hybrid you run on the ICE engine. The electric motor only helps the efficiency of the engine. For example, when going up a hill the electric motor will kick in and then recharge going back down. The Mavericks battery is only 1.1 kwhr. A typical EV can be 80 or more kwhr.

A plug-in EV has a middle ground battery allowing a range of 30-40 miles before needing the ICE engine.


68 posted on 07/28/2023 11:06:08 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: CFW

Sometime in the future, FORD will have a message for democrats...

and it will be ‘f. o. r. d.)

or eff-off retarded democrats.


69 posted on 07/28/2023 11:08:14 AM PDT by adorno
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To: TexasGator

ICE -ICE -BABY !


70 posted on 07/28/2023 11:09:24 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: meyer

“Were it me buying the Maverick, I’d opt for the ordinary 2.0 L turbo 4, as it’s the highest horsepower of all the offerings and it’s a proven engine.”

The hybrid can come with that same engine but as I just read not in 4WD.


71 posted on 07/28/2023 11:09:25 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

There’s going to be miles of EV junk yards.


72 posted on 07/28/2023 11:10:24 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo“What were you doing in the store? You were eating the food?”)
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To: CFW

RIVIAN IS LOSING BILLIONS RIGHT THERE WITH THEM. Buy Rivian stock. Wall Streets is magically making it go up. Seriously. Analysts are recommending it right and left because they KNOW there will be no consequences.


73 posted on 07/28/2023 11:14:07 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: CFW

Wow. WHO is getting them to make this stuff?


74 posted on 07/28/2023 11:14:55 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: CFW

Feds will bail them out with billions of taxpayer dollars.


75 posted on 07/28/2023 11:19:10 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: Thunder90

And as a payoff to the UAW.


76 posted on 07/28/2023 11:19:27 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

They get large government subsidies for making electric vehicles.


77 posted on 07/28/2023 11:20:08 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinions)
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To: brownsfan

The mache looks like a focus to me.


78 posted on 07/28/2023 11:20:27 AM PDT by e_castillo
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To: CFW

This is America, you will get what your government masters tell you to get.


79 posted on 07/28/2023 11:27:12 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: Tell It Right
"In our parts of the country there are plenty of fast chargers"

Fast charging damages the battery, and shortens the lifetime of the battery. I have not read about the connection between fast charging and battery fires, so I cannot state that there is a connection. Some European ferries have banned EVs from their services due to the EV fires. Several NY buildings have also banned e-bikes and scooters due to fires.

Ford, Rivian, and others just received another massive influx of taxpayer dollars.

The Chicoms boast about all the EVs they are making. Recently a video was smuggled out of China, a video of thousands and thousands of EVs decaying in huge fields. Reminds me of the USSR and the farm tractor factories. Inside, EVERYBODY has a job. Outside, there were hundreds of new tractors rusting away.

80 posted on 07/28/2023 11:30:14 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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