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Death toll from Hawaii fires hits 93 and is expected to grow, making it deadliest wildfire in over 100 years.
Fox News ^ | 8.13.2023 | Steven Yablonski

Posted on 08/13/2023 6:28:52 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

The fire in Lahaina is now the deadliest American wildfire in more than 100 years, with more than 5,000 struck turned being damaged or destroyed. Of the affected buildings, nearly 90% have been reported as being residential structures.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: antifa; deaths; hawaii; maui; mauifire; nocomment; thebakedtater; wildfires
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To: moviefan8

Seems to me different siren sequences could be used for different threats. Granted that’s a bit more expensive control module than a simple off-or-on.


101 posted on 08/13/2023 5:39:45 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Carriage Hill; Diana in Wisconsin; All

Maui wildfires that have killed at least 93 caused by damaged Hawaiian Electric power lines, lawyers claim
By Ronny Reyes
August 13, 2023

https://nypost.com/2023/08/13/maui-wildfires-that-have-killed-at-least-93-caused-by-damaged-hawaiian-electric-power-lines-lawyers-claim/


102 posted on 08/13/2023 6:02:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: UB355

That’s a nugget the writer neglected to research. Thanks for that!


103 posted on 08/13/2023 6:19:48 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: BenLurkin

Ambulance-chaser lawyers are going to have a field day, and get rich(er).


104 posted on 08/13/2023 6:25:45 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

Might not different varieties coming in provide MORE fuel? Case in point: On one part of our property that I normally mow only every month or so (its not the lawn immediately adjacent to the house!) some sort of new grass has “invaded”. (I’ve not yet researched what it is.)

So, there’s this one several square foot patch of grass that literally grows 2-3 ft. tall, fairly densely, with blades ~ 3/8” wide and with a fairly heavy center “keel” (prolly the wrong terminology?) to each blade, in the time it takes the rest of the grass in our yard to grow maybe 6”. (I’m not considering the seed head heights.) I don’t know what the final fuel per square foot (acre, hectare, etc.) ratio of this stuff over the grasses we’ve had here for ~35 years prior might be, IF I let both grow until fall and then dry out, but it has to be substantial.

Even taller new plants coming in also seem like a possibility. Heck, here in the lowly mid-south USA we have weeds that grow over 10 ft. tall. Esp. if we get a wet July (like this year).

Height of the “fuel” can matter too, in and of itself. (Vertical dynamics of the flames.)

Some years back, I saw a small cornfield that didn’t get harvested for some reason, go up in flames. THAT was rather impressive, too. :-(

Granted I’m just speculating. Do you have Horticulturist friends in Hawaii who could weigh in?


105 posted on 08/13/2023 6:36:41 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

What I can tell you is, without seeing what was there — impossible now — is that with 70-80 MPH winds from Hurricane Dora, it’;s only a matter of seconds for such a raging fire to burn thru anything.

The locals blame it on “alien plants from the Mainland ‘, which is total BS. More likely it’s uncleared underbrush/debris that fed the initial fires which merged into an inferno, and burned thru everything. Housing/building density is 80% of it, judging from the pics.

Hawaiian locals hate Americans form the Mainland. I can attest to that from personal experience. Many are just hate-filled assholes.

I haven’t seen but a few pics of “before” vs “after”, to be able to make a fair judgement, so I’ll reserve final comment, for now.

Hawaiian Electric is now being blamed, so the ambulance-chasing lawyers can get their money from insurance companies. Surprise!

Don’r discount local arson...


106 posted on 08/13/2023 8:01:45 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Delta 21

“That’s the signal for every one to grab a beer and go out on the porch and look at the clouds.”

LOL! You guys, too?


107 posted on 08/14/2023 5:32:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: UB355
When I was a kid, there was an entire history lesson taught about it in school. It was horrifying!

Wisconsin's 'claim to fame' as it happened at the same time as The Great Chicago Fire, which gets all the credit. ;)

108 posted on 08/14/2023 5:37:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Carriage Hill
Mother Nature or arson? I wonder if we'll ever really know...

This morning I heard it could be Hawaii Electric equipment. My question, is given Hawaii is basically all Dem elected officials, will anyone be held accountable for not issuing a warning? Were they all on vacation?

109 posted on 08/14/2023 5:47:00 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Is it true that all emergency leaders were away?


110 posted on 08/14/2023 5:53:42 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: combat_boots
Is it true that all emergency leaders were away?

Non of the elected Democrat officials did anything to order a warning, there was no warning.

111 posted on 08/14/2023 5:56:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

I heard it last evening, but now read that there are 3 electric companies on that small island. Who knew? I’m thinking the companies/gov’t are so intertwined that they’ll put on a public show, but no one gets held responsible. I also read yesterday, that all emergency officials were off the island; how could that be? The more I read, the more questions arise.


112 posted on 08/14/2023 6:48:22 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill
They have only gone over 3% of the town. I did hear they are bringing in Cadaver dogs today.Temp so high that folks got cremated.
113 posted on 08/14/2023 6:52:58 AM PDT by mware
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To: Paul R.

NJ Parkway planted Russian Olive as a shrubbery for the divide. Damn stuff is so invasive it grows just about everywhere in South Jersey.


114 posted on 08/14/2023 6:56:05 AM PDT by mware
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To: mware

That raging inferno cremated everything in its path. The structures, dry foliage etc were just accelerants to the fire.


115 posted on 08/14/2023 8:31:25 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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