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Maui residents who obeyed traffic orders perished, those who ignored them survived
American Thinker ^ | 08/24/2023 | Olivia Murray

Posted on 08/24/2023 7:22:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

As more details emerge about what really happened in Maui, one thing is unmistakable: the government has completely surrendered its delegated charge as the guarantor of unalienable rights, and in its current form, it is wholly unsuited to have any sort of authoritative role.

A report out yesterday at The Hill detailed that Maui residents fleeing the blaze were barricaded in by several road closures, established by local authorities; those who heeded the orders died, and those who didn’t, escaped the flames. From the article:

Those who disobeyed the barricaded road closures during the Maui fires survived the disaster, while many of those who heeded orders to turn around perished in their cars and homes with no way out….

Officials closed Lahaina Bypass Road due to the fires, blocking the only way out of Lahaina to the southern part of the island.

One family swerved around the barricade set up to escape the flames, while another resident took a dirt road uphill to climb above the fire…. However, many others who stayed in the cars on that road were stuck in a gridlock, with fires surrounding them on most sides….

Let me preempt this with a language warning, but the first video below gives us a firsthand sense of the chaos, while the second is a survivor’s account:

pic.twitter.com/U5TBmqBrHR — 🤍𝕁𝕆🤍 (@jomickane) August 23, 2023

Maybe somebody should tell this unnamed officer that “I was just following orders” isn’t a valid defense.

It goes without saying, it’s very concerning that we really can’t tell whether the government is simply staffed by the most utterly incompetent people because that’s the nature of the beast

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; escape; escapeblocked; following; followingorders; hawaii; maui; mauifire; orders; roadblocks; traffic; wildfire

1 posted on 08/24/2023 7:22:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Think you can trust the government, ask an Indian Hawaiian.
2 posted on 08/24/2023 7:23:31 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Those who disobeyed, survived”


3 posted on 08/24/2023 7:26:14 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

This. Always, apparently.


4 posted on 08/24/2023 7:32:12 AM PDT by GreatRoad ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act' )
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To: SeekAndFind

Those who ignored the POLICE survived. Notice all the Maui cops survived? They blocked people from leaving and then saved their own butts.

Echoes of Katrina.


5 posted on 08/24/2023 7:32:44 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: dfwgator

If it were Trump , a Trump family member. A trump lawyer or a close Trump friend, the local DA would be combing through online video footage right now trying to find evidence of them breaking these laws


6 posted on 08/24/2023 7:34:27 AM PDT by janetjanet998 (Legacy media including youtube are the enemy of the people and must die)
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To: SeekAndFind

They are staffed by people that don’t GAF about anything more than the next paycheck. And the safest way to guarantee the next check is to not piss off your boss.

Incompetence, disengagement, and mediocrity in our government isn’t much of a problem under normal circumstances...


7 posted on 08/24/2023 7:39:08 AM PDT by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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To: SeekAndFind

if you proceed you risk being burned

if you dont proceed you will definitely be burned

and govt chose what?


8 posted on 08/24/2023 7:39:56 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind

When the big earthquake and tsunami hits Oregon the state government will act similarly. State of Oregon proved the action they take will be against the people as they displayed during Covid.

I have faith in our local sheriff’s dept and fire department.


9 posted on 08/24/2023 7:50:04 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: SeekAndFind

Elections matter.


10 posted on 08/24/2023 7:54:34 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: SeekAndFind

I can only assume that the scofflaws who did not follow police instructions and had the audacity to survive will be cited by the local constabulary.


11 posted on 08/24/2023 8:01:14 AM PDT by Tupelo (ex uno multis)
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To: SeekAndFind

Turning people into Sheep is working but real Sheep would be long gone


12 posted on 08/24/2023 8:02:07 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: SeekAndFind

Leftist emergency czars can’t admit that a disorganized stampede where at least some people escape is better than an egalitarian shelter-in-place order where everyone dies.


13 posted on 08/24/2023 8:02:12 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: SeekAndFind

Libtards killed them

I’m sure it be on SeeBS fake news 🙄


14 posted on 08/24/2023 8:20:31 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: SeekAndFind
Anyone who has actually lived in Hawaii for any period of time would automatically assume that any order given by their government would be wrong. They are malevolent idiots.

I saw a helicopter crash at the Pahakoloa Training Area in the late '70s that killed ten Marines. Since it happened on base and I was the nearest senior officer, I secured the crash site and the bodies and the teams searching for the missing Marine (of the 10 dead and two injured one more was missing - we later found him standing where he had been dropped off when he had gotten airsick).

The Hilo police showed up and began walking through the wreck site and pawing through the debris. I asked them what they were doing and they said "we're taking charge of this site as a part of a murder investigation". I chased their dumb butts away with my (unloaded) .45.

15 posted on 08/24/2023 8:21:57 AM PDT by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: SeekAndFind

When a raging inferno is behind you, and a cop standing there says you can’t go through him to safety, guess what? I’m going through. I mostly support police, but when “zay arrr schust followink orrrderrrs”, I will resist.


16 posted on 08/24/2023 8:25:39 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: SeekAndFind

The lesson here is, think for yourself -THINK - don’t rely on the gubmint and obey everything they say you should do.


17 posted on 08/24/2023 8:38:50 AM PDT by simpson96
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To: SeekAndFind

Reminds me when the powers that be told people to stay in place at the twin towers when they were hit by terrorist hi-jacked planes.
Those with a survival instinct got out before the buildings collapsed.


18 posted on 08/24/2023 8:45:11 AM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: SeekAndFind

Damn! I had a feeling that would happen,

Yesterday I viewed a U-toob video of drone coverage of Lahania. It was absolutely breath-taking. I thought about saving it to my hard drive but it was about a gig in size, so I procrastinated.

I read this news piece this morning and thought to go back and at least capture a screen-grab of the line of charred vehicles representing the roadblock. But alas, all traces of the video have been disappeared without a trace.

I think I’ll wander over to Rumble and see if it was posted there...


19 posted on 08/24/2023 10:42:03 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now... )
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To: SeekAndFind

WHY was the road blocked at all?


20 posted on 08/24/2023 2:38:52 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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