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Chicago becomes largest US city to independently abolish subminimum wage for tipped workers
Chicago Tribune ^ | Oct 06, 2023 | Alice Yin

Posted on 10/07/2023 4:51:02 AM PDT by Salman

Chicago on Friday became the largest American city to independently require that tipped employees make a full minimum wage, following a relatively easy City Council vote that delivered one of Mayor Brandon Johnson’s biggest political wins for his progressive agenda.

In a 36-10 vote, aldermen approved the measure that advocates said was direly needed for the lowest-paid service workers and that opponents countered would backfire, causing some employees in the service industry to be paid less and lead to higher menu prices and staff cuts. The ordinance becomes law immediately but the full impact won’t take effect for five years.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; nomoretips
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To: mjustice

I suppose one method to help table turnover could be a small commission per meal. Like a hidden gratuity built into the price of the meal.

Of course, that also encourages the wait staff to recommend more expensive items and to get you out the door as quickly as possible. Good for both the wait staff and the restaurant owner, but not the customer.

That’s why I think the tipping model is the least worst. You will get the best service of the three models.

But you’re right about NYC likely to dip their toe into the minimum wage for tipped staff pool soon. Except they’ll expect people to continue to tip at the same rate as before the price hike to cover the higher wages, and then wonder why it didn’t all work out.

Most bartenders in NYC I’ve talked to about getting minimum wage worry about how it will affect their tips. It may be why it hasn’t been pushed here just yet.


41 posted on 10/07/2023 7:56:58 AM PDT by OA5599
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To: ByteMercenary

I never tip on counter service.


42 posted on 10/07/2023 7:58:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: Chgogal

Good idea! My macroeconomic professor said it best: There are no free lunches!


43 posted on 10/07/2023 8:24:51 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: 1of10

Dined at a great German restaurant in Fredericksburg last night. Excellent food and service, with Bitburger on tap. My tip was about 40%, worth every penny.


44 posted on 10/07/2023 8:28:38 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I love Fredericksburg, it was probably the same restaurant I always go to when I’m there.


45 posted on 10/07/2023 8:29:57 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Salman

When I go to Chicago, I always go to my favorite Polish restaurant, Staropolska.


46 posted on 10/07/2023 8:30:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

You gave me an ideal: 20% tip and write in MAGA next to the tip. Might send a message if that catches on. I live in Texas, so that may not be necessary.


47 posted on 10/07/2023 8:33:44 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Salman

When our country was founded the only people who could vote were land owners. We need a law that requires all politicians running for elective office to be land owners with no credit card debt.

We can’t expect politicians to be responsible spenders for the country if they don’t even have their own finances in order.

Of course, that law will never happen. What is good for thee is not good for me.


48 posted on 10/07/2023 8:37:20 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: dfwgator
Oktoberfest weekend in Fredericksburg is now on my calendar. First stop is Driftwood, wine club pickup at Fall Creek Vineyards, then on to Fredericksburg. We’re staying at the Peach Tree Inn, a pet friendly inn. Had to bring her, our usual watchers were unavailable. She’s low maintenance, a 9 YO Rotten Shepherd.

The restaurant’s name is Linderborn. Their jagerschnitzel is to die for.

49 posted on 10/07/2023 8:43:39 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: mewzilla

The modern version of Sowell would be that workers are competing with robots—and robots get paid zero.


50 posted on 10/07/2023 8:45:25 AM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: Salman

More money for the IRS


51 posted on 10/07/2023 8:46:12 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: Salman

Honestly this is a good thing. Way too many places lately have used the tip jar as a dodge. “If we put one of these out we don’t have to pay as much.” Because nobody actually puts in the work to make sure these places that say their employees get tips actually get enough tips to make up for it. The whole 2 miminums system was silly.


52 posted on 10/07/2023 8:50:33 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: yldstrk

“Tipping was always 10%. Then suddenly 20%. A fifth of the invoice. What a rip off.”

Over the last year I’ve seen many restaurant receipts suggesting a a 25% tip.


53 posted on 10/07/2023 8:57:27 AM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on )
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To: Salman

Then we can adopt the European model of tipping. No 15%pr 20 %. Just round up to the nearest dollar or $5 on a large check.


54 posted on 10/07/2023 9:25:38 AM PDT by StrictConstructionist
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To: JesusIsLord
Possibly a better law would be to require the customer to pay a 15% tip with the option of increasing that amount.

Like the mandatory tip on big parties, does anyone ever actually pay more?
Can you pay less if the service is really bad?
What about busboys, cooks, hostesses, managers, dishwashers, bartenders, etc? Do they get a set % of the mandatory 'tip', or how are they paid differently?
What about workers at non-table-service restaurants?
What if the bill includes togo food or accessories like glassware or a t-shirt or such?
What if the employer already pays employees more than minimum wage?
Why should the guy who buys a fancy steak be required to pay more than the guy who bought a plain burger? The waitress did pretty much the exact same work over the same time frame for both!
55 posted on 10/07/2023 9:27:06 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Night Hides Not
“worth every penny”

If the food is drab but the service great, I can still enjoy myself.

If the food is great but the service bad, my night is fouled.

If the food is great and the service great, I'm in heaven.

People often don't realize the impact the “service” has on the experience.

I try to encourage good service with good tips.
When we go out, we go to have an “experience”. I guess if someone eats out all the time they may see it differently.

” German restaurant in Fredericksburg “ sweeeet ... sounds like an “experience”

56 posted on 10/07/2023 9:40:28 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: mewzilla

“Making it illegal to pay less than a given amount does not make a worker’s productivity worth that amount—and, if it is not, that worker is unlikely to be employed.”

Or if he’s employed the cost of what he makes will go up, thus negating his pay “increase” when he goes to buy what he makes.

What the government giveth, inflation taketh away.


57 posted on 10/07/2023 9:51:05 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: yldstrk

When was it 10%? I was told 15% as a kid. I will happily give 20% for good service. I do NOT tip for counter service. That’s ridiculous.


58 posted on 10/07/2023 9:53:41 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Salman
What this likely means is that tips will be collected by the employer and then equally distributed among waitstaff employees - and then taxed accordingly as wages.

I actually welcome this as it will reduce the pressure to leave a good tip.

59 posted on 10/07/2023 9:56:46 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (6,390,901 Truth | 86,874,940 Twitter)
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To: 1of10

The experience reminded me of my 4 years in Germany. I loved it there.


60 posted on 10/07/2023 10:37:29 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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