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Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working
Business Insider ^ | 10/26/2023 | Alexa St. John

Posted on 10/26/2023 3:16:12 PM PDT by thegagline

With signs of growing inventory and slowing sales, auto industry executives admitted this week that their ambitious electric vehicle plans are in jeopardy, at least in the near term.

Several C-Suite leaders at some of the biggest carmakers this week voiced fresh unease about the electric car market's growth as concerns over the viability of these vehicles put their multi-billion-dollar electrification strategies at risk.

Among the surprising hand-wringing is GM's Mary Barra, historically one of the automotive industry's most bullish CEOs on the future of electric vehicles. GM has been an early-mover in the electric car market, selling the Chevrolet Bolt for seven years and making bold claims about a fully electric future for the company long before their competitors got on board.

But this week on GM's third-quarter earnings call, Barra and GM struck a more sober tone. The company announced with its quarterly results that it's abandoning its targets to build 100,000 EVs in the second half or this year and another 400,000 by the first six months of 2024. GM doesn't know anymore when it will hit those targets.

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While GM's about-face was somewhat of a surprise to investors, the Detroit car company is not alone in this new view of the EV future. Even Tesla's Elon Musk warned on a recent earnings call that economic concerns would lead to waning vehicle demand, even for the long-time EV market leader.

Meanwhile, Mercedes-Benz — which is having to discount its EVs by several thousand dollars just to get them in customers' hands — isn't mincing words about the state of the EV market.

"This is a pretty brutal space," CFO Harald Wilhelm said on an analyst call. "I can hardly imagine the current status quo is fully sustainable for everybody."***

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: enviroment; ev; eva; green; lies
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To: CodeToad

Forced into it...

SNORT.

No, they weren’t forced.

They were BRIBED.

With taxpayer money.


101 posted on 10/27/2023 5:15:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: lowbridge
Doncha just HATE it when the little snot gets in your face and says...



102 posted on 10/27/2023 5:17:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RoosterRedux; thegagline
It's not the Second Law of Thermodynamics that's pushing back against Wokeness in business. It's Adam Smith's Invisible Hand.

Can't we just agree that there's a whole lot wrong with EVs and the mandates for them. The physics, the safety, the performance, the economics, the morality, even the basic ecology of them.


103 posted on 10/27/2023 5:26:30 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: frank ballenger
Perhaps if just a little more time had been spent orb pondering,
the future wouldn't look so bleak...



104 posted on 10/27/2023 5:36:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: frank ballenger
“The federal government is planning to spend $770 million on...

...finishing the border fence.

105 posted on 10/27/2023 5:37:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: yesthatjallen

60 million trucks are on American roads right now.

(And I swear that they are ALL going slowly in front of ME!)


106 posted on 10/27/2023 5:41:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 31R1O

Is it a hybrid that charges itself?

What a carny trick!


107 posted on 10/27/2023 5:42:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: algore

I’ve ridden in those!


108 posted on 10/27/2023 5:44:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CodeToad

They are the elites.


109 posted on 10/27/2023 5:52:53 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

No, they are not. Not even close.


110 posted on 10/27/2023 5:55:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (Rule#1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: thegagline

The problem with nonselling Big Three Electrified is Tesla selling electric cars.

Why even consider a GM EV when there is a Tesla?


111 posted on 10/27/2023 5:56:16 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Sirius Lee

Tesla


112 posted on 10/27/2023 5:59:13 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Elsie

All across America the dealer lots are full of unsold and unsaleable pickups.

I saw a video yesterday that showed the actual countless unsold trucks. One was shown and submitted to math that had a sticker of $100 k plus. when all the various adders were considered the cash committed was $117 k. That calculation included an $8k down payment and at present rates a monthly payment of around $1,500

At the other end was an ordinary work truck that was stickered at $44k.

The UAW targeted truck Plants.

Meanwhile a four door sedan on that same lot (that ford quit making altogether) was stickered at $33K

The combined capitalization of the Big Three is less than Tesla

Disruption is in process

I observe and present a finding. I have no interest in owning a Tesla EV


113 posted on 10/27/2023 6:10:22 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: CodeToad

The Boards are nothing but Elites.


114 posted on 10/27/2023 6:17:49 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: clearcarbon

No they won’t and haven’t. Toilets, shower heads. Lightbulbs.. these bastards want total control and the climate BS is the key.


115 posted on 10/27/2023 6:19:36 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: Elsie

It charges it self through regenerative braking. Not a plug in hybrid, more like a prius. I am liking the 50 mpg.


116 posted on 10/27/2023 6:23:45 AM PDT by 31R1O (The people who can control themselves ought to be able to defend themselves from those who can't.)
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To: Elsie

It charges it self through regenerative braking. Not a plug in hybrid, more like a prius. I am liking the 50 mpg.


117 posted on 10/27/2023 6:30:43 AM PDT by 31R1O (The people who can control themselves ought to be able to defend themselves from those who can't.)
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To: lowbridge

There is a market for electric vehicles. That market is small and has been largely satisfied.

Electric vehicles are virtue signaling with too large a price tag for most consumers.


118 posted on 10/27/2023 6:56:06 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Paladin2

Yep. As others have observed, those for whom they ‘worked’, either from an economic standpoint or as a means to satisfy their desire to virtue signal, have already purchased them. If, as we were lectured, EV’s were so damned amazing, the market would have responded accordingly; they are not, and so the market fizzled. They seem to have a place for some applications, but not as a replacement for internal combusion engined vehicles enjoyed by most. But the globalist ‘elite’ are just fine with that. The sooner they can get us into our walled cities only occasionally zipping around in golf carts while they run the world for us, the better.


119 posted on 10/27/2023 7:38:08 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: thegagline

It was when ‘covid’ was going full swing that Lotus announced the release of its last ICE-powered vehicles. Made me want to vomit. Talk about losing a brand. Classically small-engined, high-revving, light and nimble racers turned into golf carts is not a good business plan.


120 posted on 10/27/2023 7:43:56 AM PDT by drwoof
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