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To: Red Badger

This was a really bad case to bring regarding 2A protection.

The accused is a deeply unsympathetic character with a history of violence.

If the Supremes allow states to deny firearms to those they deem dangerous, then the left-wing states will start figuring out ways to deem all conservatives dangerous.

Domestic abuse restraining orders are not a good judge of whether someone is dangerous because there is no hearing or right of the accused abuser to contest the order. They are granted willy-nilly to anyone who applies for them with no practical judicial review and with no hearing.

This case could effectively remove most 2A protections from all of us.


5 posted on 11/07/2023 12:35:32 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

In Domestic Abuse cases, the man is guilty until proven guilty.................


9 posted on 11/07/2023 12:39:06 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: ModelBreaker

I am a Marine. To some, we’re all dangerous.

What good is to be armed and be a deterrent to criminals, both private and public sector, if even while being armed you are HARMLESS?


11 posted on 11/07/2023 12:43:10 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: ModelBreaker

A battered woman can be dead from alot of things-—NOT always a gun.


12 posted on 11/07/2023 12:44:53 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ModelBreaker

“The accused is a deeply unsympathetic character with a history of violence.

If the Supremes allow states to deny firearms to those they deem dangerous, then the left-wing states will start figuring out ways to deem all conservatives dangerous.

Domestic abuse restraining orders are not a good judge of whether someone is dangerous because there is no hearing or right of the accused abuser to contest the order. They are granted willy-nilly to anyone who applies for them with no practical judicial review and with no hearing.”

I am hoping that the Court somehow focuses on the procedural issue side of this case and demands some meaningful judicial review. Something like a very prompt mandatory hearing re the actual facts and history of the alleged abuser.


14 posted on 11/07/2023 12:48:04 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: ModelBreaker

100%. Once the state is allowed to declare who is dangerous; it is game over. And I don’t want to hear any of that “Oh, that would never happen here!” garbage.


35 posted on 11/07/2023 1:29:16 PM PST by vpintheak (There is no Trans. There is only mentally ill)
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