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Nato warns of all-out war with Russia in next 20 years
The Telegraph ^ | Thu, January 18, 2024 | Joe Barnes

Posted on 01/19/2024 9:20:44 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Civilians must prepare for all-out war with Russia in the next 20 years, a top Nato military official has warned.

While armed forces are primed for the outbreak of war, private citizens need to be ready for a conflict that would require wholesale change in their lives, Adml Rob Bauer said on Thursday.

Large numbers of civilians will need to be mobilised in case of the outbreak of war and governments should put in place systems to manage the process, Adml Bauer told reporters after a meeting of Nato defence chiefs in Brussels.

“We have to realise it’s not a given that we are in peace. And that’s why we [Nato forces] are preparing for a conflict with Russia.

“But the discussion is much wider. It is also the industrial base and also the people that have to understand they play a role.”

Adml Bauer, a Dutch naval officer who is chairman of Nato’s Military Committee, praised Sweden for asking all of its citizens to brace for war ahead of the country formally joining the alliance.

Stockholm’s move, announced earlier this month, has led to a surge in volunteers for the country’s civil defence organisation and a spike in sales of torches and battery-powered radios.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: nato; russia; war
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To: MinorityRepublican

How’s about we just transition away from NATO in the next few years instead?


41 posted on 01/20/2024 8:20:47 AM PST by rx
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To: KrisKrinkle

NATO will not be around much longer. It will shatter without US/UK. If war come—how many NATO members will fight. some will be neural (France-Spain), some will fight (Germany-UK, Italy) Others may well join the Russians! (Poland and Hungary Bulgaria, Turkey). When war comes, not if but when, it will be a World War and be fought on every continent. The world will be changed forever, new maps, new borders, new governments.


42 posted on 01/20/2024 8:24:01 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Reverend Wright

I think Tesla will be making tanks soon—but we shouldn’t fight Russians in the snow.


43 posted on 01/20/2024 8:26:29 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What BS, is not going to happen. Russia is moving for stronger BRICS ties and has no interest or ability to invade and make war with the West.


44 posted on 01/20/2024 8:32:30 AM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: MinorityRepublican

If Russia can’t defeat Ukraine, what makes them think Russia wants or could invade anyone else?


45 posted on 01/20/2024 9:00:35 AM PST by Smittie (Just like an alien I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: MinorityRepublican
And that’s why we [Nato forces] are preparing for a conflict with Russia.

Translation: We provoked a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine. We getting our asses kicked. So, we demand our citizens be conscripted and sent off to die trying to fight the Russians.

46 posted on 01/20/2024 9:00:38 AM PST by Kazan
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To: bitt

Nuck FATO.


47 posted on 01/20/2024 9:22:09 AM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: ansel12

Bilingual requirement for officers, for one.

My dad had a department collegue who was a fighter pilot. Once the bilingual and Quebec preference garbage came in (mid 1960’s) he got out, got a phd in Physics and had a very successful academic career ( was even head of the department for a while).

That’s the caliber of people the Canadian Forces did have at one time.

But they deliberately forced them out in preference to various left wing social agendas... hey, that reminds me of something... but I just can’t quite place it...


48 posted on 01/20/2024 11:00:48 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: amnestynone

” Does this not tell you anything about their intentions? “


Inciting the Baltics to persecute ethnic Russias in 2024, after they have lived there for decades, tells me all about NATO’s intentions.


49 posted on 01/20/2024 11:03:56 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

The question was why you refused to serve in the military during your extremely long era of eligibility.

How long a period did you fit into the age limits, wasn’t it many decades in your country?


50 posted on 01/20/2024 11:05:40 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

For the same reason whites are not joining the US military now - it was a woke, left wing politically correct circus.


51 posted on 01/20/2024 11:09:24 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Nato warns of all-out war with Russia in next 20 years

NATO will not exist in 5 years.

52 posted on 01/20/2024 11:13:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez des mensonges et des phrases)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“If war come—how many NATO members will fight. some will be neural (France-Spain), some will fight (Germany-UK, Italy) Others may well join the Russians! (Poland and Hungary Bulgaria, Turkey). When war comes, not if but when, it will be a World War and be fought on every continent. The world will be changed forever, new maps, new borders, new governments.”

Interesting analysis. Italy is the last country that would fight. The Germans are not exactly what Germans used to be, either. Poland is the most likely to fight.

But then I really doubt Russia is planning a wider war.


53 posted on 01/20/2024 11:14:31 AM PST by nyc1
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To: Georgia Girl 2

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54 posted on 01/20/2024 11:18:27 AM PST by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: Reverend Wright

“”””For the same reason whites are not joining the US military now - it was a woke, left wing politically correct circus.””””

The period when you were avoiding military service included the Reagan years and the years of some of the
West’s greatest Cold War patriotism, weren’t you eligible for military service roughly 1980/81 through 2015/16 give or take?


55 posted on 01/20/2024 11:20:54 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MinorityRepublican

Twenty years is plenty of time to perfect those solar powered planes, tanks and submarines. Take that Russia!


56 posted on 01/20/2024 11:26:11 AM PST by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: ansel12; All

” The period when you were avoiding military service included the Reagan years.. “


Uh.... As you like to point out I am Canadian, not American.

Trudeau was Prime Minister.


Let me ask you.

Do you advise white men against joining the the US military, or is the need for cannon fodder against Russia more important than truthful career advice ?


57 posted on 01/20/2024 11:33:41 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

You cut off the sentence.

It was only one sentence and you cut it off short to mislead.

“The period when you were avoiding military service included the Reagan years and the years of some of the West’s greatest Cold War patriotism, weren’t you eligible for military service roughly 1980/81 through 2015/16 give or take?”


58 posted on 01/20/2024 11:37:03 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12; All

Let me ask you.

Do you advise white men against joining the the US military, or is the need for cannon fodder against Russia more important than truthful career advice ?


59 posted on 01/20/2024 11:38:41 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

That was Pierre Trudeau who was Prime Minister when you first became of military age.

The height of the Cold War, Thatcher, Reagan, Schmidt, Kohl Pope John, Lech Wałęsa, but you were avoiding military service and continued to do so for decades.

You were even avoiding military service when I was joining your Canadian Airborne Association to show solidarity with your Special Operations Regiment.


60 posted on 01/20/2024 11:51:54 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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