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Parents should be the ones who decide what their kids should be allowed to access on the internet not the government. Notice how many Dems are supporting this bill. Authoritarians on both sides. Just one more anti-First Amendment bill from Florida Republicans.
1 posted on 01/30/2024 9:56:45 AM PST by jimwatx
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Not a bad law. Usually, I think it should be up to the parents. But if the parents are stupid enough and they refuse to be the parent, then maybe the law have to step in.

Typically, I'm for the states. The Feds should stay out.

2 posted on 01/30/2024 9:58:58 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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"Facebook, Instagram and other social media platforms, urged the House to seek another solution, such as requiring parental approval to download apps"

It's such a shame that those companies can't do anything about this unless Congress passes a law gets telling them what to do. They probably expect Congressional interns to come in and do the coding and roll-out, too.

Freaking slimeballs.

3 posted on 01/30/2024 10:01:39 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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Expanding the power of the state is wrong


4 posted on 01/30/2024 10:02:32 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Roberor thert Heinlein)
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I think most kids know what a VPN is?


5 posted on 01/30/2024 10:04:37 AM PST by Round Earther
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You’re right. But how do they assure that parents assent to the account? It would seem that there’s some way to properly get parental permission.


6 posted on 01/30/2024 10:05:01 AM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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Excellent comment, yours. Republicans rightfully complain about government overreach. But here they are doing exactly that.

The Internet is full of potential dangers. So parents need to warn their kids, and set limits. But I’d rather have those limits set by parents, and not politicians.

And this is different than, say, alcohol. Alcohol is always a danger in the hands of minors. Nothing good can ever come of it. Not so with the Internet.


7 posted on 01/30/2024 10:06:25 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Well that fixes.......nothing.


8 posted on 01/30/2024 10:07:36 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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How did we ever grow up to be productive responsible adults without tik tok?

EC


10 posted on 01/30/2024 10:09:41 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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Wait, so no law restricting kids purchasing porn? Cigarettes? Alcohol?


11 posted on 01/30/2024 10:12:29 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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I agree. I think social media in the hands of kids is not a good thing, but it is parents who should decide this, not some law.

Some in the GOP are just baiting their constituents for future donations and not considering our Constitution and the true meaning of Liberty under a limited government.

If I were a Florida parent with young kids I’d start a class action suit against the law, in spite of wanting, for myself, to keep my kids off of social media venues.


14 posted on 01/30/2024 10:17:23 AM PST by Wuli (e)
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Woke, social-engineering nanny-state activism dressed up as conservatism.


15 posted on 01/30/2024 10:23:16 AM PST by PGR88
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Parents should be the ones who decide what their kids should be allowed to access on the internet not the government.

Agreed, in principle.

Still creates a question of contract law - can a child under 16 enter into a contract, even with the signature of a parent?

I don't know the answer to that.

16 posted on 01/30/2024 10:26:23 AM PST by politicket
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Never give an order that can not be followed.

The law would be unenforcable


17 posted on 01/30/2024 10:27:45 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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Agreed. This should be called an anti parents rights bill.

Beyond that, while they ban the impossible, they should ban shark attacks, fishing trips where you get skunked, rainy days at Disney world, and temperatures over 87 degrees


19 posted on 01/30/2024 10:28:55 AM PST by laxcoach (The secret to happiness is a bait pen full of pinfish.)
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Parents should be the ones who decide what their kids should be allowed to drink alcohol not the government.

Discuss.


20 posted on 01/30/2024 10:29:45 AM PST by SpaceBar
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That’s for the parents to decide, not the govt. DeSantis has many more issues concerning Florida.


23 posted on 01/30/2024 10:49:17 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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Here is the problem... They are changing the definition to make the term apply to EVERYTHING but market sites all the way back to USENET BBS Boards. And market sites that have customer feedback. It is not just sites like Facebook, Twitter, or apps like Tik Tok, everything that allows users to interactively participate with each other. Forums, BBS Boards, Interactive blogs, message apps, Etc. As an example this definition was just updated ahead of time for the roll out of this future action just a few days ago. And you can absolutely bet your “information” is NOT safe with this concept.

Written and fact-checked by
The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica
Last Updated: Jan 25, 2024 • Article History

social media, a form of mass media communications on the Internet (such as on websites for social networking and microblogging) through which users share information, ideas, personal messages, and other content (such as videos). Social networking and social media are overlapping concepts, but social networking is usually understood as users building communities among themselves while social media is more about using social networking sites and related platforms to build an audience.

The earliest forms of social media appeared almost as soon as technology could support them. E-mail and chat programs debuted in the early 1970s, but persistent communities did not surface until the creation of the discussion group network USENET in 1979. USENET allowed users to post and receive messages within subject areas called newsgroups. USENET and other discussion forums, such as privately hosted bulletin board systems (BBSs), enabled individuals to interact, but each was essentially a closed system. With the release in 1993 of the Mosaic web browser, those systems were joined with an easy-to-use graphical interface. The architecture of the World Wide Web made it possible to navigate from one site to another with a click, and faster Internet connections allowed for more multimedia content than could be found in the text-heavy newsgroups.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/social-media

Here is Wikipedia:

Social media are interactive technologies that facilitate the creation, sharing and aggregation of content, ideas, interests, and other forms of expression through virtual communities and networks.[1][2] Social media refers to new forms of media that involve interactive participation. While challenges to the definition of social media arise[3][4] due to the variety of stand-alone and built-in social media services currently available, there are some common features:[2]

Social media are interactive Web 2.0 Internet-based applications.[2][5][6]
User-generated content—such as text posts or comments, digital photos or videos, and data generated through all online interactions—is the lifeblood of social media.[2][5]
Users create service-specific profiles for the website or app that are designed and maintained by the social media organization.[2][7]
Social media helps the development of online social networks by connecting a user’s profile with those of other individuals or groups.[2][7]

The term social in regard to media suggests that platforms are user-centric and enable communal activity. As such, social media can be viewed as online facilitators or enhancers of human networks—webs of individuals who enhance social connectivity.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_media

What is social media?

Social media is a collective term for websites and applications that focus on communication, community-based input, interaction, content-sharing and collaboration.

People use social media to stay in touch and interact with friends, family and various communities. Businesses use social applications to market and promote their products and track customer concerns.

Business-to-consumer websites include social components, such as comment fields for users. Various tools help businesses track, measure and analyze the attention the company gets from social media, including brand perception and customer insight.

Social media has enormous traction globally. Mobile applications make these platforms easily accessible. Some popular examples of general social media platforms include Twitter, Facebook and LinkedIn.
What are the business applications of social media?

In business, social media is used to market products, promote brands, connect to customers and foster new business. As a communication platform, social media promotes customer feedback and makes it easy for customers to share their experiences with a company. Businesses can respond quickly to positive and negative feedback, address customer problems and maintain or rebuild customer confidence.

Social media is also used for crowdsourcing. That’s the practice of using social networking to gather knowledge, goods or services. Companies use crowdsourcing to get ideas from employees, customers and the general public for improving products or developing future products or services.

https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/defin ... cial-media

This means US HERE AT the FR and every forum on the net. If Florida does this it will spread across the nation like wildfire and every site but stores will be required to comply. And you can bet the “3rd party verification” service will be directly affiliated with law enforcement and/or Spooks. So what will happen?

Most folks will give the websites the big finger. So internet participation is going to crash. I know I won’t be giving out this sensitive info to anyone for anything or for any reason. My bank doesn’t even ask for what they are asking for to use their system. So if this passes domain options will be:

1, First close the front page off from public viewing which will kill the advertising aspect of a site.

2. Revamp the website script to accommodate these regulations for just those from Florida IP addresses.

3. Apply the regulations to everyone. (Most likely option for most sites because it is less work to apply it to all regions across the board. Websites are already doing this option to everyone because of Ca internet laws.)

4.. Block all Florida IP addresses so that you don’t have to rebuild the site software just to accommodate Florida.

5. Close up shop altogether.

This is dangerous, I can’t believe it but most Godly people of faith are all in for this to be mandated to save the children of course. It will be the biggest mistake ever thrown at the internet and will destroy both them and the internet.

This will spread to be just like an internet driver’s license.


25 posted on 01/30/2024 11:02:12 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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Banning the platforms is the wrong way to do it. But how about making social media platforms liable for psychological damages linked to excessive screen time and myriad social media contagions? EVERY study that looks at this finds that kids (and young adults as well) are being harmed by this in quite serious ways. This is not speculative. I’ll be happy to serve on the jury.

A tobacco company can get sued if someone lights a cigarette in the next county, and I exaggerate only slightly. Why does lawfare only seem to work in one direction?


30 posted on 01/30/2024 11:18:38 AM PST by sphinx
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They aren’t going after the parents rights. They are going after the apps. They want to make it illegal for anyone under 16 to log onto on app that has LIKES, FOLLOWERS, and a way to COMMUNICATE with others. Basically, they’d be able to play games and get on google, but Tik-Tok, Insta and apps like that would be age restricted. PEDOs are really going to hate it!!!


35 posted on 01/30/2024 11:57:58 AM PST by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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Many teens today leverage the internet and apps to responsibly gather information and learn about new opportunities, including part-time jobs, higher education, civic or church gatherings, and military service,” Meta representative Caulder Harvill-Childs wrote to the House Judiciary Committee. “By banning teens under 16, Florida risks putting its young people at a disadvantage versus teens elsewhere.”

Does Mr(?) Harvill-Childs not know there's more to the internet than FaceBook? That most of what he mentioned isn't even found on Twitter?


Democratic Rep. Anna Eskamani said social media was an outlet and comfort where she could find support after her mother died when she was 13.

What is she talking about? She was born in 1990. At 13 her social-media options were AOL or usenet, maybe Friendster. There was no Facebook or Twitter or MySpace when she was 13..
40 posted on 01/30/2024 12:41:43 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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