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Islamic culture not compatible with European Values: Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni [Video]
The Economic Times YouTube Channel ^ | 12/18/2023 | The Econonmic Times

Posted on 02/03/2024 11:07:10 PM PST by Texan4Life

Italy's Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni may have just touched a raw nerve with a loaded comment about Islam at a far-right gathering in her country. According to various media reports, Meloni's potentially explosive observation came at a political event held by the far-right Brothers of Italy in Rome, where she reportedly said that "there is no place for Islamic culture in Europe".

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KEYWORDS: immigration; islam; italy; meloni
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To: irishjuggler
"In a lot of other Euro countries, a child of a native-born citizen would be an automatic without all those hassles."

I consider myself an expert on this subject and you're correct. Italy hasn't been "better than many European nations at this. . ." [making it easy for those of Italian citizenship to immigrate to Italy.] In fact it is among the worst, if not THE worst. Acquiring Italian citizenship, or residency for that matter, is an absolutely convoluted, expensive nightmare - unless you're a "refugee," then it's all "on the house.".

I live in Sicily and have been here, off and on, for about ten years. Acquiring residency permits every year has been a gut-wrenching, expensive nightmare, fraught with administrative incompetency and wrapped in an inconsistent bureaucratic maze that would bring any sane person to tears and despondency.

Even acquiring Italian citizenship "jur sanguinis," that is through an unbroken chain of Italian ancestors, will take the average person thousands of dollars (4-6) and years of bullshit to accomplish.

I have permanent residency, which to my utter shock and surprise, was recently granted to me. The process has been an absolute nightmare and there were many times I thought, "Eff this, I'm out."

Now, here's the kicker that demolishes the fantasy that the "conservative" Italian government has been moving towards welcoming back those of Italian heritage: Until this year, non-EU foreigners, with legal residency, had to pay ~387 Euros to use the National Health Care System, which believe it or not, is excellent. However, this year, the fee was arbitrarily increased at the last minute to (drum roll please. . . )a minimum of 2,000 Euros. This affects, overwhelmingly mainly American and British expats, you know, those productive, law abiding folks that contribute to the Italian economy, don't sponge off social services and follow the law.

Now, you might ask who's exempt from this outrageous fee? If you said African, Syrian, Afghan and all other "refugees," most of whom are Muslim, you'd be correct! On top of that steaming pile of unfairness, toss Ukrainian "refugees." The 2,000 fee is being used to cover the costs of giving these folks free everything. Ugh.

Ain't socialism grand?. . .

The fact is, the Meloni government is all "conservative" talk but globalist-supporting in deed.

The flood of Third World "refugees" flooding into Italy continues unabated, in spite of Meloni's big talk while campaigning, of stopping that flood. She'd make an excellent RINO in the US.

When it comes to ease of immigration for those of European heritage, look at Ireland. My high school buddy, who was born in the US to a father of Irish heritage simply filled out a form in the US, provided copies of his birth certificate and afew other easily procurable documents, sent it to the Irish Embassy and within a few months he had an Irish passport.

I'll leave you with this story: Years ago, I was having serious problems with continuing my residency here and had just exited another meeting with incompetent clowns at another government office. When I walked out, a good friend of mine was outside so I started telling him what was up. Another Sicilian guy joined the conversation and said this to me: "You must be like Negro - get in rubber boat and come to shore like refugee. It will all be free then!"

And he is right.

21 posted on 02/04/2024 1:57:33 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Reverend Wright

I live in Sicily. You’re precisely correct.


22 posted on 02/04/2024 1:58:22 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Texan4Life

Very true.
But unfortunately, most of the Euro countries’ political elites have sold their nations out to the IslamoNazi invasion and it is very far along already.

Those countries may already be doomed (at least in that there’s no visible Charles Martel..)


23 posted on 02/04/2024 1:58:48 AM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Interesting stuff. Thanks. And, I agree... Eire is a piece of cake for those who qualify.


24 posted on 02/04/2024 2:03:21 AM PST by irishjuggler
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To: faithhopecharity
But unfortunately, most of the Euro countries’ political elites have sold their nations out to the IslamoNazi invasion and it is very far along already.

It's amazing how few people you have to buy to control a country.

25 posted on 02/04/2024 2:16:48 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (Stand Fast! God knows what He is doing!)
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To: Texan4Life

Then why the hell are you letting them in?

I thought Italy was going to fight Brussels like Hungary does...instead you caved in like a little whipped dog. Now you want to yap yap yap like some little chihuahua.

Match your actions to your words. You are right. So prove it.


26 posted on 02/04/2024 2:39:36 AM PST by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: Texan4Life

Islam was in Europe since Ad 713, when they conquer today’s Spain and Portugal and stay there for over 700 years.
Southern Italy was ruled by Islam for over 150 years.
Balkans were ruled by Turks for some 600 years and there are still holding to some part of them.
Muslim Tatars controlled Russia for several hundred years. Catharine II finally destroyed massive slave trade Muslim state of Crimea in 1783.

Islam was always invasive, conquering and abusive. Basically the religious war between Christians and Muslims is ongoing since Mohammed times.


27 posted on 02/04/2024 3:01:55 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: AZJeep
Basically the religious war between Christians and Muslims is ongoing since Mohammed times.

Christianity is God/Christ

islam is literally satan and his death cult

allah is just another name for satan, lucifer, etc...and he's been at war with God since he was expelled from Heaven

28 posted on 02/04/2024 3:21:12 AM PST by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The NWO crowd with thier puppets in place have destroyed Europe


29 posted on 02/04/2024 3:23:24 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Reverend Wright

“Only Russia will have the demographic, military and economic heft to stand against Globohomo.”

Muslims are at least 10% of the Russian population. Russia is doomed.


30 posted on 02/04/2024 3:28:54 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Texan4Life
"Far right"?

The European press throws around the term like monkeys fling their poo.

31 posted on 02/04/2024 3:44:30 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: vladimir998; All

“Muslims are at least 10% of the Russian population. Russia is doomed.”


Russia’s moslem population was 11 percent in the 1897 census.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire_census

They most recent estimate for moslems is 6.5 percent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia

Contrast that with the countries of the West, who have only had moslems present since the mid 1960s, and they are on the verge of dominance in many countries.


32 posted on 02/04/2024 4:17:27 AM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Daveinyork

It wasn’t marxist.


33 posted on 02/04/2024 4:44:44 AM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Texan4Life

Just saying the quiet part out loud.

There is no such thing as Islamophobia. It is a very real and rational thing to be afraid of bearded men with burning eyes, brandishing a large sword and shouting “Allahu akbar!” as they advance upon bewildered citizens of another country.


34 posted on 02/04/2024 4:55:54 AM PST by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: Texan4Life
"Islamic culture not compatible with European Values."

Never let a sucker keep his nation.. Yeah, that works, and it works for us as well.! :(

35 posted on 02/04/2024 5:04:00 AM PST by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: faithhopecharity

They aren’t doomed because there’s no Charles Martel, they’re doomed because they refuse to have children. It doesn’t matter who they elect.


36 posted on 02/04/2024 5:12:15 AM PST by Varda
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To: Rocco DiPippo
The fact is, the Meloni government is all "conservative" talk but globalist-supporting in deed.

In your opinion, is this a matter of duplicitous ideology or the mere fact of impenetrably corrupt bureaucracy (particulalry in a 'backwater' like Sicily)? I can easily see the latter as equivalent to our indispensible Deep State protected by unions and the Civil Service Act and effectively immune to a top-down purge, in which case your disparaging Meloni's shortcomings (while understandable) would be counterproductive.

37 posted on 02/04/2024 5:29:26 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Texan4Life
A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

This is why Hussein has the bust of Churchill removed from the White house.

38 posted on 02/04/2024 5:42:10 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam only understands Death and Pain. Give it to them. )
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To: Texan4Life

Mudslimes should never be permitted to emigrated to the west. They’re incompatible. Stay with the muslms where you’ll be happier killing one another rather than murdering and raping Christians and jews.


39 posted on 02/04/2024 6:04:13 AM PST by Wdempsey (Democrats and slinkys.. Both useless but fun to push down stairs.)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

Okay, so now a scene from “True Romance” is playing in my mind.... :)


40 posted on 02/04/2024 6:07:23 AM PST by Texan4Life
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