Did you see it?
Chaos from all directions. “Ordo ab Chao”
Their true mission is to protect the Swiss banks and eliminate the competition.
Posted on 02/08/2024 3:12:29 PM PST by Brown Deer
Tucker interviews Vladimir Putin in Moscow, Russia. February 6th, 2024.
Yes. Very well done. It was not agenda driven, and Tucker's questions were appropriately aggressive. He was not obsequious in the least. This was definitively not a softball interview, and is IMHO much better than any interview I've ever seen with Putin previously.
Interview was the day before yesterday. That’s be a neat trick.
Did you see it?
Chaos from all directions. “Ordo ab Chao”
Their true mission is to protect the Swiss banks and eliminate the competition.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:00 Putin gives a history of Russia & Ukraine
00:25:04 NATO Expansion
00:30:40 NATO & Bill Clinton
00:41:10 Ukraine
00:48:30 What triggered this conflict?
01:02:37 A peaceful solution?
01:11:33 Who blew up the Nord Stream pipelines?
01:24:13 Re-establishing communication with the US
01:36:33 How powerful is Zelensky?
01:48:36 Elon Musk & AI
01:51:07 Imprisoned American journalist Evan Gershkovich
Excellent interview. Amazing the amount of history and information he shared. How many of our leaders can recite our history for 30 minutes? And for those who claim it’s revisionist history, please give us an instance. By the way our history as it’s taught is flawed. The truth has no agenda.
Listening to interview now, will post a few observations.
First is, Putin promises a “30 second to one minute” history lesson that goes on for half an hour.
So if he promises peace “soon” we will know what that means.
Around 16:00 Putin gives away his belief that the USSR (Soviet Union) was basically Russia. This then is the foundation of his belief that all now independent nations formerly republics of the USSR are candidates for annexation.
Listen to 14:00 to 17:00 to get a wider context of his rather convenient reading of Polish relations with hitler and Stalinist USSR.
Soon afterwards he states that Ukraine is an artificial state created by Stalin’s policies in the early years of the Soviet Union. This implies there is no limit on how much of Ukraine that Russia might logically be entitled to annex (all of it apparently unless hungary wants its 1%).
Around min 31, Putin describes how close Russia was to joining NATO during the late years of Clinton, I gather in 1999 or possibly early 2000. This is where he hints that US presidents are under the thumb of “agencies” but of course another reading is that Bill Clinton was not expecting a question so beyond his briefing notes, and gave an early answer that he later rethought. Whether that was wise or foolish is an entirely separate question.
Soon after, Putin describes an exchange with CIA in which they “admit” to backing opposition groups in Russia (around 2001-03 I gather). Putin says that meant Caucasus terrorist groups (Chechnya, Ruslan school siege etc).
This part is worth watching, you could probably skip the long historical overview to 25:00.
Then most if not all of interview to about 53:00 is a review of how Ukraine “started the war” (selon Putin) in 2014 by its aggressions after maidan, and how Russia’s moves in 2022 are just a phase of this conflict, not separate to it in any way.
Around 55:00 they discuss de-Nazification. This lasts several minutes. About all he is willing to say about Stalin’s famine policies is a very nondescript reference to bad treatment. So for Putin there was no justification for Ukrainians to see any opportunities for freedom from the Soviet rule in collaboration with Germany.
Killing or displacing ten million people to a Russian is “bad treatment.” Unless of course a German does it.
Putin is incapable of seeing the moral equivalency of Nazism and Soviet communism; he referenced the Ukrainian fighter in WW-II introduced to Canada’s parliament during Zelensky’s visit to Ottawa — he did not mention that our prime minister is a son of either (a) a KGB operative or (b) a Soviet ally, Fidel Castro. I wonder what blinds him to these ironies? (I know what blinds Canadian politicians, stupidity, but Putin is anything but stupid).
Or is he? Nobody forces him to throw tens of thousands of his young men into the eat grinder. And nobody can restrain him because in their system, to oppose Putin is to die. This is the guy who wants to de-Nazify an independent country.
Around 1:06 of interview, Putin more or less says he can’t recall last time he spoke to Biden and there’s no point in talking to him. Clearly he either doesn’t trust Joe Biden, or he does not believe Biden is in charge. On this, I find myself in full agreement.
Around 1:08 he says the only reason he would ever send forces across Poland’s border would be if Poland attacked Russia.
Around 1:09 he adds that there is no realistic chance of using tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, this is propaganda spread by NATO to justify support of Ukraine.
At 1:11-1:12 after a humorous exchange about Tucker blowing up nordstream, Putin suggests CIA has “no alibi” and dismisses any other potential culprits.
By 1:14 they are talking about why Germany would put up with America damaging their economy by this act. Interesting but perhaps not very accurate on either side of interview.
1:20-1:30 is all about Putin’s view of global economics, and how USA is stupidly giving away its advantages by making the US dollar an untrustworthy instrument for trade (because of the danger of sanctions against nations who don’t do the will of DC). This is probably to some extent disingenuous but what I found most interesting was Putin’s blindness to the junior partner nature of Russia to China in the BRICS alternative.
Already, the yuan has replaced the US dollar as primary instrument of Russian trade. I think we know what lies ahead if that trend continues.
Around 1:28 it’s a general dismissal of US politicians (and others) as being subservient to a background power system that wants to use force to gain its objectives.
Now for some reason Tucker didn’t jump in and say, “you mean like the USSR?”
Then around 1:30 for several minutes, Tucker gets Putin to talk about who really holds power in America — reading between the lines, he says it’s the military-industrial complex.
1:35-1:40 is about Zelensky and whether he has power to negotiate peace. It’s worth a listen. Nobody reading this can know how much or little of what Putin says about it is true.
By 1:42 it’s about Putin’s Orthodox Christian faith. To y ear, Putin refused to engage wit t e question and tried to make it sound like Russia was a very tolerant country for any kind of religious faith, so when Carlson tries to re-focus on his actual question, Putin again goes off on a tangent and basically says Russian ideology is religion is peace is harmony (all of which has no correlation with any reasonable view of history or current affairs). So in other words, Putin retreats into his private world of delusions.
(to my ear, .. the question) above
Evan Gershowitz will remain a pawn for future trading, and Putin says he is currently low on decency after trying it several past times. I think we already knew that. EG is a spy by Putin’s estimation so will remain in jail for a while.
Final 10-15 mins are on subject of how to end the war, what if any chances there are for NATO/Ukraine to negotiate with Russia, who needs to change positions, in fact, who is winning and who is losing. It’s very worth hearing, whether it would change your own view or not is very debatable. It did not change my view.
ROFLMAO! Ok, so that's a 7 letter acronym, what happens now?
IDGAFAFLA
And there's a 9 letter new acronym. What do I win, Super double secret probation?
Thanks for the humor break.
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