Land was not "once Russian", it was occupied by the Russians, with the population being Ukrainian.
Great way to start WW3 if you allow countries in Europe to start claiming lands they once conquered.
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Posted on 02/10/2024 1:02:42 AM PST by canuck_conservative
... The Russian president argued that Poland was to blame for Hitler's decision to invade, claiming the Warsaw "went too far" by balking at the annexation of part of its territory.
Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski suggested in a post to X, formerly Twitter, on Friday that Putin was "paranoid" and called it "shocking" that Carlson "enabled" the Russian president by giving him a platform to spread his false claims and rhetoric.
Sikorski .. also noted that Hitler was joined in invading Poland by the Soviet Union, which was an ally to Nazi Germany for nearly the first two years of the war...
According to a verified translation of Putin's remarks during the Carlson interview, the Russian president claimed that Poland "forced" Hitler to invade by being "uncooperative" with Nazi demands to take territories including Polish city Gdańsk, then known as Danzig.
"[Poland] rejected Hitler's demands," Putin said. "Since [Poland] did not give up the Danzig corridor, the Poles nevertheless forced him. They got carried away and forced Hitler to start the Second World War against them first." ...
Putin's claim that Hitler had "no choice" but to invade Poland is not supported by historical evidence.
According to The National WWII Museum, Hitler set the stage for the invasion by making "it look as if the Poles had provoked the hostilities and the SS obliged by staging numerous false-flag operations and 'Polish provocations' against Germans."
The Russian president's 2022 annexation of parts of Ukraine prompted some to draw parallels with Hitler's actions during the early days of World War II.
Notably, Hitler justified Germany's ambitions to take Gdańsk/Danzig by citing the large number of pro-Nazi German speakers in the city at the time, a similar argument to Putin's claims about Russian speakers in Ukraine's Donbas region....
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
“Sikorski .. also noted that Hitler was joined in invading Poland by the Soviet Union, which was an ally to Nazi Germany for nearly the first two years of the war...”
I think that comes as news to most Americans. The Germans and Soviets jointly invaded Poland. France and England were allies of Poland and declared war on Germany.
I’ve read that many Democrats called Stalin “Uncle Joe.” That was before my time. I probably read it in some conservative publication that liberal friends and relatives would never accept. To my surprise, I was able to witness it first-hand. An older relative smiled with his eyes and lips and said “Uncle Joe.” He couldn’t have said Jesus Christ with more love.
A few Democrats I’ve known have credited the Soviets with winning WWII - a war they helped to start. They point to soviet casualties, confusing input with output. Without the US Lend Lease Act (neither a loan nor a lease), the Soviet Union would probably have been defeated.
China and Russia plan to starve the world just like Hitler.That is why Ukraine was needed
Land was not "once Russian", it was occupied by the Russians, with the population being Ukrainian.
Great way to start WW3 if you allow countries in Europe to start claiming lands they once conquered.
Soviet 1926 census map showing ethnicity
This chart was a real eye opener for me.
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—> Ukraine is a sovereign country now, you keep forgetting that part
If they were “sovereign” they could protect their territory.
“Ukraine is a sovereign country now”
Agreed. The past cannot be changed. Attempts to correct past injustices (real or imagined) only lead to future injustices.
The communists seized my grandfather’s factory in Poland. A few years ago, the Polish government opened the door to compensate people like me. I wasn’t interested. The deed was done. My grandfather was dead, as were the perpetrators. I saw no point in benefitting at the expense of the Polish people of today.
—> Year 3 of Putin’s “simple 1-month conquest” starts in just 2 weeks - now that’s an admission of failure!
Yes, Russia moved in and captured its former lands - and as you rightly point out - ha held them.
How’s the sovereign country thing working??
Yes, that is frightening. I am confident he believes what he said. I have worked in both Russia and Poland in the past. I have known many Russians and far more Poles. The Russians are so clueless about how much the Poles hate them. The sane can be said about the Belarusians, Lithuanians, Latvians, Estonians, Czechs, Georgians, and Slovaks. When I visited Ukraine in 2017 I didn’t see any anti-Russian sentiments but I presume that if Ukrainians were loving the Russians back then that this love has faded for many Ukrainians since this Special Military Operation started almost 2 years ago.
Not all Russians believe Putin. But enough of them do just like the CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and ABC viewers mostly unquestionably believe the propaganda they get. Some people are just sheep for the Machiavellians :(
Very funny. Not true of course, but very funny.
Exactly right. I was thinking the same thing. If Tucker had not done this interview, most people wouldn’t know about Putin’s twisted view on this. I certainly wouldn’t have.
In the late 1800s, Poland did not exist.
Poland existed from 966 AD to 1795 AD then disappeared off the map until 1918. It was partitioned between Pru(to become Germany), Russia and Austria. The partitioning powers were explicit in not allowing the word Poland to be used as they feared freedom movements. The Poles had multiple uprisings in the 1800s, but didn’t succeed until the partitioning powers fought each other in the Great War
That is false. The Germans allied with Slavic Slovakia and Croatia.
The Russians allied with the Germans and started the war.
And after the Germans lost, the Russians came in as conquerors which is why all other Slavs besides the Serbs mistrust them.
The Russians fought hard in wwii because most of the fighting until 1944 was on Russian lands.
Oh and the Russians didn’t liberate Central Europe, they just replaced the German totalitarian regime with a Russian totalitarian regime.
Of to mention the RuZZians always ignore the fact they were Hitlers allies had a treaty to carve up Poland and invaded and occupied half of Poland.
Tucker is the new Walter Duranty.
And I’m disgusted at “ conservatives” that think supporting RuZZia is a positive act.
Unfortunately this is what Russians are taught since 1945.
They are not taught that the USSR allowed with Nazi Germany to invade Poland. For them the world war as they are taught, started in 1941
Short answer - the Poles hate the Russians and the Russians have nobody to blame but themselves on this.
The problem with Russia is that the Russians are in denial on this.
And Poland’s problem 85 years ago was that they trusted England and France that they would fight for them. The lack of French/English invasion into Germany in September 1939 speaks volumes on how the Poles got this wrong and as a result around half their buildings and 20% of their people died in the next 5.5 years before the Russians occupies them for the next 44 years.
Poland’s problem today is that they trust the USA to defend them now. I can think of at least 34.2 trillion reasons why that would not be a good idea for them to be so trusting.
Did you forget the part where RuZZia invaded Poland with their Allies the Nazis and slaughtered Slavs? That the genocidal So it’s murdered millions of Ukrainian Slavs with their famine. You are a historical moron.
For hundreds of years Alaska was part of Russia.
And the parts of the USA were English, French, Spanish and Mexican.
I suppose you want to return Texas to Mexico? And Georgia to the UK?
You mention trust.
What happened is that Hitler and Stalin took advantage of supremely confident diplomat dupes that believed in the infallibility of the diplomatic machinations.
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