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consider is a conventional, fixed-rate mortgage with a 15-year (or less) term. Your monthly mortgage payment also shouldn’t exceed 25% of your take home pay.

IMHO that's sound financial advice. So if you can't meet it start saving and being frugal until you can. As was taught when I was growing up it's a cold, cruel world out there (snowflake).
1 posted on 03/07/2024 9:26:22 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
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consider is a conventional, fixed-rate mortgage with a 15-year (or less) term. Your monthly mortgage payment also shouldn’t exceed 25% of your take home pay.


The advice is right but it doesn’t work under Bidenomics.


2 posted on 03/07/2024 9:28:49 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Sounds like smart advice.


3 posted on 03/07/2024 9:28:51 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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Another option that I used is to get a 30 year mortgage and pay it off early by doubling payments. You have some control over the amount of interest paid.


4 posted on 03/07/2024 9:30:54 AM PST by plain talk
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It’s ideal to get a 15 year mortgage, but a 30 year mortgage gets you a bigger better house and it’s better than renting.


5 posted on 03/07/2024 9:31:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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If you can’t afford to buy a house, you can’t afford to buy a house. And his target market isn’t folks that have good financial discipline.

Ideal would be to buy a house with a 30 year mortgage, and then make an extra payment PP&I payment every month. But his customers aren’t likely to actually do that.

Same thing with his credit card advice - he says pay off smallest to largest. Ideal would be pay off highest to lowest interest rate, but he knows that his customers need to be able to see progress to stay with the program.


6 posted on 03/07/2024 9:32:06 AM PST by PAR35
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This property bubble and un-affordability can continue for a very long time.

The US is heading in the direction of other countries, which suffer from socialist central-planning, large debt burdens, government policies that limit housing supply, inflation, lower-standard of living for working-class, etc... - where buying a home involves generations contributing to payments and bubbles are kept going for decades

I’m thinking of places like China, Japan, or even now Canada.


7 posted on 03/07/2024 9:32:49 AM PST by PGR88
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The advice is right, but the housing market has moved up so much that you will get much less house than you would have 3 years ago.

The alternative is to not follow the advice, get a 30 year mortgage, and have almost no equity after 5 years.


10 posted on 03/07/2024 9:33:53 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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median price of $402,045,

I see this mistake made often regarding home ownership.

The median is the number where half of the sales were below and half were above.

11 posted on 03/07/2024 9:34:55 AM PST by Raycpa
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Related:

California proposes zero down, no payment home ‘loans’ for illegal immigrants
By Kenneth Schrupp | The Center Square Mar 4, 2024

Excerpt:

“The program in question — the California Dream for All Shared Appreciation Loans program administered by the California Housing Finance Agency — started in 2023 with $300 million set aside for 2,300 applicants, and ran out of funds in just 11 days. This year, the program will require applicants to be first-generation home buyers and reduce maximum income thresholds to 120% of county median household income. Under the program, applicants can secure “loans” of up to 20% of a home’s purchase price to first-time home buyers — the cost of a down payment — with zero down payment to the CHFA, and no payments on the “loan.”

The state’s “loan” can potentially be repaid when the home is refinanced, sold, or transferred, with the borrower paying back the original loan amount plus 20% of any increase in value on the property. Unless a property loses more than 80% of its purchase price, the state will not directly lose money, but without any provisions on how long a property can be held for — including what happens with certain kinds of trusts, such as right-of-survivorship trusts — it’s not clear if the state can ever get its money back if a family decides to hold on to the home.”

https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/state/california-proposes-zero-down-no-payment-home-loans-for-illegal-immigrants/article_9efb9d89-cb2b-56e3-96f5-1bc2f91ffe32.html


13 posted on 03/07/2024 9:35:57 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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First time buyers shouldn’t be beuying a house for $402,000.


14 posted on 03/07/2024 9:37:11 AM PST by caver ( )
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That was the conventional advice for decades, but it only works now if you can find a home for no more than $100,000. In our area, you can find plenty of homes under $50,000, but it will be an older fixer upper. Certainly not what most “influencers” would want. Social media (and media in general) have ruined our country with unrealistic expectations.


15 posted on 03/07/2024 9:37:18 AM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Dave Ramsey is a fraud. Who would listen to this guy? He just has simpleton ideas about money.

He is like the doctor who tells you to exercise, eat your vegetables, take two aspirin, and call me in the morning.

WOW! I didn’t know that!!!!! /S

Oh yeah, diversify your portfolio. BRILLIANT! Dave.


16 posted on 03/07/2024 9:37:57 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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If you must take a mortgage, it is better to take a series of small ones with short payment periods, like 5 years or less. Use your paid off mortgage as a downpayment to a larger mortgage until you get the house you want that you can afford. Then, never move.


20 posted on 03/07/2024 9:39:00 AM PST by Jonty30 (I may not know as much american history and law as I like, but I know more than most liberals.)
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I like Ramsey, and his advice is spot on in a quasi-free market economy like the US is supposed to be, but a little bit dated for current times.

It used to be possible for a younger person or couple to rent a low end apartment or small home and put money away for a down-payment on a house. At this point, there really aren't any "low end" apartments or small homes to be had. They've all been bought up by the Blackrocks or other mega-property management companies who charge confiscatory rates for even a small 1 or 2 bedroom apartments. Throw in the Biden grocery and utility bills and a young family's only viable option for saving any money is going to be moving back in with mom or dad.

22 posted on 03/07/2024 9:40:13 AM PST by Joe 6-pack
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A big problem with mortgages is the escrow payments as insurance and property taxes increase, that’s a big hit on your monthly payments.


24 posted on 03/07/2024 9:43:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Having to have a combined income of $130-$140k for a $400k house with a 15 year mortgage is not unreasonable.


30 posted on 03/07/2024 9:48:52 AM PST by TiGuy22
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The ideal way to buy a home, according to Ramsey Solutions, the finance guru’s website, is to buy it outright in cash.

Well, the statement is technically correct, and that advice is for those who have that ability. However, it is not feasible for most. But then he wasn't really talking to them at all.

33 posted on 03/07/2024 9:50:40 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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Ramsey teaches that before you buy a home you need to pay off all of your debt and have a 3-6 month emergency fund in place. This is very good advice; I didn’t take it and it caused us all kinds of stress. But alas, we finally got sick and tired of being sick and tired, implemented the 7 Baby Steps and now our stress levels are low because we have no debt, a 10 month emergency fund, a paid for home/cars/kids college and are putting close to 40% of our income into retirement accounts. But having said all that I don’t care what other people do with their money.


35 posted on 03/07/2024 9:51:37 AM PST by fatboy (')
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Ramsey's advice is over the target. The most likely reason a person can't follow that advice is ... having made poor decisions that resulted in home ownership being out of reach. The complainers should fix their positions and then buy the home instead of pretending they made right decisions and that Dave's advice is where things are wrong.


43 posted on 03/07/2024 9:54:18 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Dave is right. If the math doesn’t work our for you, look for a smaller/cheaper house.


45 posted on 03/07/2024 9:55:52 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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