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To: Kazan

***There would be NO war in Ukraine if we hadn’t meddled in Ukraine, fomented an illegal coup, installed a government hostile to the Russians and ethnic Russian population, trained and funded a 600,000 man Ukrainian army, set up biolabs in Ukraine with deadly pathogens in them and teased NATO membership for Ukraine.***

Recap for those who have become confused by Kremlin propaganda:

- Ukraine elected a supposedly pro-EU president (Viktor Yanukovych) who said he would move towards a closer trading relationship with the EU.
- But when it was time to start finalising/signing agreements with the EU the pro-EU president decided he was now pro-Russia instead so he wouldn’t be signing anything with the EU.
- The Ukrainian people got angry and peacefully protested.
- The now pro-Russian president had some of them shot.
- The Ukrainian people got a lot more angry and rioted.
- The now pro-Russian president fled from Kiev.
- The Ukrainian government fired the now openly pro-Russian president.
- The pro-Russian president then fled Ukraine and went to live in Russia.
- Russia then used the confusion to annex the Crimean peninsula using troops stationed there to protect the Black Sea Fleet plus unmarked troops “on holiday”.
- Russia sent unmarked troops “on holiday” to Donetsk and Luhansk, meeting up with local Russian immigrants and pro-Russian Ukrainian malcontents and starting a “separatist” movement.
- Once Ukraine got it’s act together the “separatists” started getting their asses kicked by the Ukrainian military.
- Russia sent tanks, artillery and anti-aircraft systems to back up their forces and proxies in the east, claiming all the time they were Ukrainians using their own equipment (this was completely debunked due to those forces using open radio communications and possessing Russian weapons systems never exported to Ukraine).
- Either Russian operatives or pro-Russian “separatists” accidentally shot down a commercial airliner, thus drawing massive international attention to the conflict and making Russia’s open support of their proxies and sympathisers in Donetsk/Luhansk untenable.
- The Minsk Agreements were negotiated in 2014/15 which called for a ceasefire, as Russia could no longer openly send the troops/weapons required to hold ground and Ukraine lacked the capabilities to defeat their forces outright.
- Then 8 years after the Crimea land grab, on the 24th of February 2022, Russia invaded the rest of the eastern half of Ukraine (with the aim of taking the whole country east of the Dnipro river) in a “3 day special military operation” that has now been dragging on for over 2 years.


95 posted on 03/28/2024 5:52:34 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: David Hunter
So, insurrections and illegal coups are perfectly okay with you. It's okay when that happens in other countries but not when it allegedly happens here? That is stunning admission of hypocrisy on your part and whatever agency you work for.

Get this through skull -- the people of Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk overwhelmingly voted for Viktor Yanukovych. They had EVERY RIGHT to seceded from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation after a President they voted for was illegal removed from office.

The people in those regions were overwhelmingly ethnically Russia or culturally so and were NO OBLIGATION to be persecuted, killed and driven from their homes by Ukrainian nationalists that despised them.

And, we most certainly helped foment the illegal coup in Ukraine in 2014. That is root cause of the current war. We did so intentionally so our elite (like the Bidens, Soros and BlackRock) and defense industry could make $$$ in Ukraine.

You're the one spewing Deep State and Biden regime propaganda here.

What did in Ukraine is a disgrace and decent and moral people aren't going to tolerate it, especially given that is has pushed us closer to WW III and nuclear war than we were during Cold War and has led to the rise of BRICS and de-dollarization.

Our meddling in Ukraine has been a disaster. It never a thing to do with national security and everything to do with the greed of our elite.

Take your Deep State garbage and shove it.

106 posted on 03/29/2024 9:08:12 AM PDT by Kazan (Megan C. bet me, lost the bet and was humiliated!)
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