Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

San Francisco Considers Forcing Grocery Shops to Remain Open Amid Crime
Daily San Francisco Bay News ^ | 4/4

Posted on 04/04/2024 3:02:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway

When in doubt, blame businesses for closing their doors instead of the crime that has made it unsustainable for them to operate. San Francisco might even do you one better: force the businesses to stay open anyway.

One of the 11 members of San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors is floating reviving a vetoed 1984 law that would force grocery stores to stay open against their will. Supervisor Dean Preston calls it a “good idea” because of the risk of “food insecurity” that comes with grocery stores closing.

The law in question would require stores to give a whopping six-month notice before closing, would force them to meet with community members (i.e. activists who will shame them for being greedy corporations), and would mandate that they “explore” opening a replacement store to make up for the one they are closing. In other words, San Francisco would be forcing grocery stores to stay open while running at a loss and putting their own employees in danger due to crime, all because San Francisco just can’t stomach locking up the criminals causing these problems in the first place.

On the bright side, this may just be a worse idea than Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson proposing government-run grocery stores, moving San Francisco closer to the title of worst-run city in the country. But this is not a solution to the problem. The problem is that crime has made running several businesses unsustainable, whether through the losses that come with rampant shoplifting, the safety of employees being put in jeopardy, or both.

Forcing grocery stores to become charities for six months while a bunch of activists complain is not going to stop stores from closing. In fact, it would make them far more hesitant to open new locations (or the alternative ones the law mandates they consider), knowing that they could be held hostage by the city government for six months if their business becomes unsustainable.

If San Francisco pursues this, it would simply be a punishment levied against businesses that are only responding to the terrible circumstances they have been put in by criminals and by San Francisco’s lax attitude toward them. Forcing grocery stores to stay open temporarily doesn’t actually solve any problems, because it isn’t designed to solve a real problem.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugged; aynrand; california; californication; crime; despotism; groceries; grocery; grocerystores; marxisttyranny; retail; sanfrancisco; sanfransicko; theft
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-123 next last

1 posted on 04/04/2024 3:02:17 PM PDT by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
Even Ayn Rand is stunned at this one
2 posted on 04/04/2024 3:04:20 PM PDT by rdcbn1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

The law in question would require stores to give a whopping six-month notice before closing,

Obviously these Socialist-Commie-Fascist clowns have NO idea how a business runs.

All it would take is the managers to "forget" to order supplies, or "forget" to pay the suppliers to deliver.

Three to five weeks, tops.

3 posted on 04/04/2024 3:07:10 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rdcbn1

I am thinking of running for office. I used to think there was smarts involved, I guess not. Do I have to do any work or just attend meetings? P.S, I am pre-underpaid already.


4 posted on 04/04/2024 3:07:14 PM PDT by armourenthusiast (I capitalize everything related to South)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 4Liberty; ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; antceecee; ...
Atlas ping.

Directive 10-289, Point #2:

All industrial, commercial, manufacturing and business establishments of any nature whatsoever shall henceforth remain in operation, and the owners of such establishments shall not quit nor leave nor retire, nor close, sell or transfer their business, under penalty of the nationalization of their establishment and of any and all of their property.

5 posted on 04/04/2024 3:07:16 PM PDT by Publius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

I presume that any such law to really be effective would also require the stores be stocked to the city’s satisfaction and charging prices within city guidelines. The same would go for staffing, hours, etc.

I was unaware that cities had that kind of legal power


6 posted on 04/04/2024 3:07:53 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Publius

I bet at least 80% of Freepers’ first thought on seeing the title was “Directive 10-289”.


7 posted on 04/04/2024 3:09:26 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: kiryandil

The Stores that got out early were wise.
The ones that have not closed will make a mad dash to the exits now.


8 posted on 04/04/2024 3:09:52 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kiryandil
Supervisor Dean Preston calls it a “good idea” because of the risk of “food insecurity”

"food insecurity" = food desert

9 posted on 04/04/2024 3:11:18 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: tennmountainman
All they have to do is stop ordering right now, and stop paying their suppliers immediately.

Easy Peasy.

10 posted on 04/04/2024 3:11:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

voters need to require performance bonds on local government


11 posted on 04/04/2024 3:11:24 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tennmountainman
The Stores that got out early were wise.

Indeed they were.

12 posted on 04/04/2024 3:11:55 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: dfwgator

FReepers are some of the smartest people on earth.


13 posted on 04/04/2024 3:11:58 PM PDT by Publius
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
Forcing grocery stores to become charities for six months while a bunch of activists complain is not going to stop stores from closing.

Just keep the store open and don't stock them.

14 posted on 04/04/2024 3:12:28 PM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Right_Wing_Madman

The Socialist Clown Car Brigade in Spam Fransicko is just axeing for food deserts.


15 posted on 04/04/2024 3:13:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Ukrainian electrical grid doink?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Beat them to the punch. Close now.


16 posted on 04/04/2024 3:13:37 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kiryandil

Yep.


17 posted on 04/04/2024 3:14:02 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: tennmountainman

The rest should immediately close


18 posted on 04/04/2024 3:14:36 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Empty the shelves. “Hey, we’re open, though...”


19 posted on 04/04/2024 3:14:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

This is pure insanity.

Any store could “stay open.” Liquidate all available assets and then just don’t pay for utilities and taxes. Go Galt.


20 posted on 04/04/2024 3:15:47 PM PDT by piytar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 121-123 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson