DRT. Dead Right There.
Posted on 04/13/2024 5:14:14 PM PDT by naturalman1975
The hero cop who took down a knifeman, ending his killing spree can be revealed.
NSW Police Inspector Amy Scott came face-to-face with the 40-year-old man dressed in a Kangaroos rugby league jersey and brandishing a knife as she responded to the fatal stabbings of six people in Westfield Bondi Junction on Saturday afternoon.
Witnesses said the officer only had time to yell “put it down” before the knifeman charged her.
After the man lunged at Inspector Scott, she shot him dead.
NSW Police Commissioner Karen Webb said Inspector Scott was “doing well under the circumstances” on Saturday evening. “She showed enormous courage and bravery,” the police commissioner continued, adding Scott was alone when she confronted the suspect. “She will be interviewed tomorrow.”
In 2019, Inspector Scott was recognised at the Rotary Club Police Officer of the Year award ceremony when she received the Demonstrated Courage and Devotion to Duty award.
On Saturday, that courage was on full display, when she met a man on the fifth floor about 4pm, him brandishing a 30cm knife.
The man, who is well known to police, was in the midst of a killing spree.
He had just fatally stabbed six innocent people, and was advancing on the senior officer.
There was only enough time for one warning before he would be upon her.
“Put it down,” she yelled.
The man ignored her and kept advancing.
The woman had no choice. Her years of training and experience kicked in.
She fired.
The bullet went into the man’s chest.
He dropped, bled out and died.
Putting emotions aside, the woman immediately got down on her knees and attempted to save the life of the man she had just shot by giving him CPR until other emergency services officers arrived.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailytelegraph.com.au ...
Well, for the six murdered and the others badly wounded there were inarguably not enough guns in their vicinity.
> Said, though, no terrorism. <
I noticed that, too. Very quick determination by the police. That alone makes me very suspicious.
DRT. Dead Right There.
“”””There are more guns in private hands in Australia now than at any time in our history.””””
So how does the percentage of households with a gun in it compare to before you guys were disarmed, and how many of the guns are pistols?
But the “suspect” is dead so it was unlike the US where they would have said “police saw the man run but then lost him” and “police now have no suspect in custody and are reaching out for help from the public for clues.”
But the firm “no relation to terrorism” along with “police have no knowledge of the suspect’s background or whereabouts.”
Doing CPR on a chest wound is just speeding up the inevitable.
Good on her.
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A happy ending to a very tragic scenario.
First, praise to Inspector Scott. Second, the situation probably would have been the same in the US, either in gun-restricted cities, or in shopping malls that prohibit firearms.
We haven’t been disarmed, so your question is founded upon a false premise.
But, yes, there are probably fewer guns per capita than there were thirty years ago. It’s impossible to know for sure (because we didn’t have accurate figures thirty years ago, and while the figures today are more accurate, they are still not all that accurate for various reasons), but that is likely. There was a significant decline in the late 1990s and early 2000s, but that’s corrected since then.
Handguns have never been all that common in Australia, but those are likely still as common per capita as they were thirty years ago, partly because of that (it was an unusual choice then, and still is). Where the significant decline is, is mostly in low calibre rifles and shotguns. There’s less ‘casual ownership’ especially in rural areas than there used to be (there was never all that much in urban areas).
The young Jewish man who social media has been claiming was the man is NOT the knifeman. Somebody decided it was because they thought it looked like him and it has spread.
The actual assailant has now been named. No information has yet been released on his ethnicity or background beyond saying he only recently moved to New South Wales from Queensland.
Maybeas an officer you’re trained to give aid/cpr to someone you’ve shot.
As a private citizen I would not do so out of grave concern they were playing possum.
I would have preferred somebody nearby was armed with a firearm.
But I’m also glad the guy only had a knife.
Yes, her training would be to preserve life, if possible, even in these circumstances.
I don’t think anybody would have blamed her if she hadn’t tried to do CPR in the circumstances - she could have legitimately argued she was in shock herself or that she feared he was faking.
But it looks like she did the job she’s trained to do in literally text book fashion.
I would guess they have to. They are most likely told to do this as standard.
I would feel no such obligation or duty. I would assume they are faking and keep them at gunpoint.
If 75% fewer households have guns now than before you were disarmed decades ago, then saying Australians were disarmed isn’t a myth, and an increase in some people collecting rifles doesn’t make up for what was and for the likelihood that pistol ownership would have greatly increased during these decades of new immigration and unease.
Here is an explanation of the many rules and hoops to jump through and the limitations while owning, and the expense of it.
https://www.twclawyers.com.au/gun-laws-in-australia/
Inspector Amy Scott
“…I don’t think anybody would have blamed her if she hadn’t tried to do CPR in the circumstances - she could have legitimately argued she was in shock herself or that she feared he was faking.…”
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And, judging from the picture in post 1 above, if he was faking the knife remains perilously close to his right hand. An American cop would typically have kicked it away.
I’d love to be wrong and for Aussies to enjoy loads of freedom! You may well have superior knowledge on this, but quick net searches tell about 0.5 to 1 M gun buy backs or confiscations in Australia starting in the late 90s, that all guns are required to be registered, all gun owners are required to be licensed and to have an approved excuse to have a license—which doesn’t include self defense. Gun owners must be members of an approved gun club (at least that should reduce accidents from stupidity and lack of proper training) and may only transport their guns to and from home, gun club or gunsmith. Don’t think 2nd enthusiasts would be enthusiastic about any of that coming here. I presume internet searches on ‘Aussie gun controls’ are going to produces links mixed with all the same biases and searches for ‘US gun controls,’ so what I read deserves to be taken with lots of salt. And I don’t claim to possess enough personal expertise to sort the truth from the lies. But what I’ve heard coming from Down Under over the past couple decades regarding its domestic politics, on multiple policy subjects, doesn’t fit with what I’d heard about the country, and liked, the prior couple decades.
The 75% figure is not accurate in my view. It comes from one piece of research that has significant flaws. There are other estimates that are quite different.
The article you’ve cited is primarily about gun laws in one state, and seems to be just assuming that those laws apply across the country. That might have been a fair assumption twenty five years ago in the wake of the National Firearms Agreement, but things have changed in a lot of places since then.
I’m actually quite surprised that Queensland may be as restrictive as the article implies. A lot of what is in the article doesn’t match my experience in Victoria - and honestly, I would have assumed we’d be worse than Queensland (we have the most ‘woke’ socialist government in the country).
OK, this is where things get a little complicated.
About 620,000 firearms were handed in during a gun buyback in the late 1990s, and more have been since in smaller buybacks - it wouldn't surprise me at all if the total number had reached one million.
But what is not often understood, is most of those firearms were still completely legal. There were a small number of firearms that became more restricted in the late 1990s and early 2000s, and an even smaller number that could be reasonably said to have been banned and had to be handed in, but the vast majority of guns handed in were still fully legal. Part of the intent of the buyback was to get unused firearms out of the community as these were the ones most likely to get stolen and wind up in the hands of criminals. Because of the nature of the buyback ('no questions asked') we don't know the precise breakdown of weapons people could have kept and which they couldn't reasonably do so. But the majority were still legal. And quite a few people used the money they got from the buyback to buy newer guns - it was in a lifetime opportunity to get a fair cash price for old guns without having to navigate some fairly complex bureaucracy in some places.
Yes, all gun owners must be licenced - but that wasn't anything new and is often presented as it was. Most guns had also been required to be registered before that, but there were a small number for which that changed. Basically, in the great majority of cases for the great majority of gun owners and the great majority of guns, nothing changed - and it's often falsely presented as if it was a massive change.
The self-defence issue is complicated. You can use a firearm in self-defence if you need to, that's a matter of common law going back centuries. But it is true that if write "self defence" on the form when you ask for a gun licence, or a permit to acquire, they will reject. So you'd have to be an idiot to write that down. Most people aren't idiots. You write down "hunting" or "target shooting" or similar.
Gun owners must be members of an approved gun club (at least that should reduce accidents from stupidity and lack of proper training) and may only transport their guns to and from home, gun club or gunsmith.
Gun owners generally don't need to be members of an approved gun club, but that does make it easier to fill some of the forms and get approval quickly - it's one of the easiest processes so a lot of people do it. The transport rules do exist but... let's just say that commonsense is applied. I don't want to go into too many details about that, but if you check my post history, you'll find a post from earlier today where I talk about commonsense and my interactions with my 'local firearms officer' and you can probably read between the lines.
But what I’ve heard coming from Down Under over the past couple decades regarding its domestic politics, on multiple policy subjects, doesn’t fit with what I’d heard about the country, and liked, the prior couple decades.
Quite honestly, a lot of misinformation has been spread about Australia in the US in recent years. Some of which I believe is deliberate propaganda from a certain highly populated Asian nation, that wants to split Australia and the United States relations - it's not all untrue, but it's often very misleading (things that happen in particular parts of Australia being presented as typical of the whole country, for example... how would you feel if we judged all of America based on what goes on in Los Angeles?)
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