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To: ansel12

Good deal for Finland and Sweden. NATO is the insurance policy that has the US acting as the guarantor of their sovereignty up to and including nuclear war and footing the bill. NATO is a paper tiger. The UK can fit its entire army (86,000) in Wembly stadium and have 14,000 seats vacant.

Without the US, NATO is a paper tiger. It is time to have Europe pay for its own defense. With a combined GDP equal to the US and a population of 500 million, Europe has the means to defend itself. NATO, like the UN, is an anachronistic organization stuck in the post WWII period.


26 posted on 04/18/2024 5:46:53 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

What a trivial propaganda response to such a serious and expensive decision by those nations and their people.

Joining NATO means greater military spending and military responsibilities for their nations as they feel forced to end their tradition of neutrality.

European nations have been forced to take on new burdens of military spending and costly war preparedness to face what dozens of nations see as Russia’s future goals of war and conquest.


37 posted on 04/18/2024 8:37:09 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: kabar

The EU and their individual countries have been contributing more than the US to Ukraine all along. I believe we should secure our own border first, even if it means shutting down our entire Congress to make it happen, but the new Speaker and his supporters to include Trump now apparently don’t feel that way.

https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-humanitarian-and-financial-aid-donors/


42 posted on 04/18/2024 9:04:12 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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