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To: kabar

So, Ukraine should just summit to Russia?

I don’t understand you. Russia has no right to own Ukraine than we Mexico.

Explain to me why Ukrainians should not be their own people with their own government, when we have 193 recognized countries in the United Nations, Ukraine being one of them?


125 posted on 04/21/2024 9:08:21 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I don’t understand you. Russia has no right to own Ukraine than we Mexico.

We did invade Mexico back in the Day. We should do so again, Oil & Gas, beaches, food. Whit is not to like about annexing Mexico.

The Dems would get more voters and we would get good beaches to vacation on.

As to Russia / Ukraine - long history of one dominating the other and then the SHOE changes to the other foot

140 posted on 04/21/2024 9:50:27 AM PDT by DanZ
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To: Alas Babylon!
So, Ukraine should just summit to Russia?

No, but their leadership must accept reality if they truly care about their own people. Negotiation is the only way this ten year war ends. Prolonging the inevitable just results in more senseless death and destruction. We must use our leverage and influence to facilitate the negotiations. Who benefits from continuing the war? Corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs? The US Military-Industrial complex? Deep State to hide their nefarious activities?

I don’t understand you. Russia has no right to own Ukraine than we Mexico.

The Russian objective is a neutral Ukraine that is not part of NATO. It is not to "own" Ukraine. We had the Monroe Doctrine to control our sphere of influence. We intervened many times in Central America overtly and covertly to achieve our foreign policy objectives. The closest we have ever come to a nuclear war was the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia shares a 1,400 mile border with Ukraine, which used to be part of the USSR and Russia for hundreds of years. They share historical, political, cultural, linguistic, and religious ties.

If the Soviet Union had staged a coup of the duly elected government of Mexico and stated the intention that Mexico would be part of the Warsaw Pact, what do you think our reaction would have been?

Explain to me why Ukrainians should not be their own people with their own government, when we have 193 recognized countries in the United Nations, Ukraine being one of them?

Ukraine was one of the founding members of the UN. Russia has not announced any intention to conquer and occupy Ukraine and eliminate it as a sovereign nation.

China has taken over Tibet. It prevents Taiwan from becoming a separate nation. It has violated the terms of the agreement that transferred control of Hong Kong and trampled the civil liberties of the people of Hong Kong. And then there is the genocide of the Uyghurs. Contrast the reaction of the US and its allies to the sins of the CCP compared to the Russians.

190 posted on 04/21/2024 2:53:45 PM PDT by kabar
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