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Why US voters are looking beyond Biden and Trump
Arab News ^ | April 20, 2024 | Andrew Hammond

Posted on 04/22/2024 2:09:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

As the 2024 presidential race heats up, a central paradox is becoming ever clearer: Many voters are growing disenchanted with, and are certainly not enthused, by the two main candidates, Joe Biden and Donald Trump, who are 81 and 77 years old, respectively. With a little over six months to go before election day on Nov. 5, this can be seen in Biden’s relatively low approval ratings. Meanwhile, Trump’s ever-growing list of controversies and court cases might be buoying his populist political base but they are turning off many independents and more moderate Republican voters.

One of the key implications of all this is the high possibility that their choice of running mates will be unusually important this time around, in historical terms, not least because of the greater than usual possibility that whichever of them triumphs in the presidential election might face challenges, given their age.

Therefore, their choices of vice president will be very important, which challenges the traditional view of this secondary office. The usual perspective on the office was rather colorfully summarized by John Nance Garner, who held the post between 1933 and 1941 under Franklin D. Roosevelt, when he said that “vice presidents never get to go anywhere … the office is not worth a bucket of warm spit.”

Even if Biden or Trump, the oldest presidential candidates nominated by the two main parties in American history, manage the next five years, their energy could flag significantly during their time in office. Their running mates might therefore wield major influence in the White House. There are at least two, more general reasons for this, beyond the ages of Biden and Trump. Firstly, the office has assumed more power and resources in recent decades, with recent vice presidents such as Biden, Dick Cheney, and Al Gore ranking among the most influential in US history. The power that those three were entrusted with reflected not only their own great political experience and strong relationships with Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton respectively. It was also a function of the enhanced status of the vice presidency, reflected not only by larger staffing budgets but also greater proximity to the center of power via a West Wing office in the White House; weekly one-on-one meetings with the president; and the authority to attend all presidential meetings.

Secondly, the office has become perhaps the single best transitional step to the presidency, as exemplified by Biden. Even if the next president manages past 2029, the next vice president could be on a “fast track” to the Oval Office at the 2028 election, or at some point in the 2030s. Since 1960, four sitting vice presidents earned their respective party’s presidential nomination but lost the election: Richard Nixon in 1960, Hubert Humphrey in 1968; Walter Mondale in 1984; and Gore in 2000. Three former vice presidents have been elected president: Nixon in 1968, George H.W. Bush in 1988, and Biden in 2020.

The next vice president has a higher than normal chance of assuming the top job at some point between 2025 and 2029.

As noted, the next vice president has a higher than normal chance of assuming the top job at some point between 2025 and 2029. And history shows us the crucial effect that stepping up in this way can have on the future prospects of a vice president.

This is perhaps best exemplified by Harry Truman, who was vice president for just a few months, from January to April 1945, before becoming president when Roosevelt died in office. Within weeks of taking over, Truman had made several highly consequential, controversial decisions, not least the order to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August that year. He subsequently won the 1948 presidential election. In this context, the electoral stakes have grown in the nuclear age for failing to select a deputy perceived as being capable of effectively assuming the office of president upon the death or incapacitation of the incumbent.

Take, for example, the 2008 election, in which Republican nominee John McCain, then 71, selected as his running mate Sarah Palin, who was widely viewed at the time as being too inexperienced and gaffe-prone to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

Barring any last-minute change of mind, it looks most likely that Vice President Kamala Harris will once again be Biden’s running mate, despite the fact that she is widely perceived as not having performed strongly since taking office in 2021.

In 2016, Trump chose former Gov. Mike Pence, someone even many of his partisan opponents would concede could have potentially assumed the presidency in an effective manner had the situation warranted it. It remains unclear, however, whether in 2024 Trump will pick a similarly suitably competent individual.

One candidate reportedly under consideration to be his running mate is Kari Lake, who said during a rally last Sunday that Trump supporters should prepare for a “difficult” six months ahead of the election, and called on the military and police veterans among them to stand ready. Remarkably, she then added: “What do we want to strap on? We’re going to strap on our seat belt. We’re going to put on our helmet or your Kari Lake ball cap. We are going to put on the armor of God. Then maybe strap on a Glock (a type of gun) on the side of us, just in case. You can put one here and one in the back or one in the front, whatever you guys decide.”

Taking all of this together, we can see why the choice of vice president will really matter. The next holder of the office will not only have significant powers in their own right, they will also have a higher than usual chance of taking over as president should Trump or Biden be unable to perform as president.

Andrew Hammond is an associate at LSE IDEAS at the London School of Economics.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bloggers; andrewhammond; arabnews; biden; bloggers; fakenews; nevertrumpgaslighing; nochance4desantis; notnews; tds; trump; vicepresident; voters
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To: frank ballenger

Great point. I get all of my news, fair and balanced, from the Arab news and Al Jazeera. Great sources taking up bandwidth here at FR!


21 posted on 04/22/2024 2:38:15 PM PDT by Judge Bean
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To: jimwatx

“We’d become the laughingstock of the world with her at the helm. It would be a literal nightmare.”

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I think we already are. I get what you’re saying but how can Harris be that much worse than Biden who is basically a mannequin — and the world knows it.


22 posted on 04/22/2024 2:39:23 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: jimwatx
We’d become the laughingstock of the world with her at the helm.

We already are the laughingstock of the world.

23 posted on 04/22/2024 2:42:03 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m getting more p##### every day!!!! For Gods sake, republicans... come to the aid of Donald Trump!!! Stop giving money to Ukraine or anyone else!! stop talking about this or that!! Get the border closed! Go to bat for Trump!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are useless sitting in congress doing nothing ... except giving away money you don’t have to give.... and you are letting that dementia patient still sit in the oval office... he is guilty of money laundering.. accepting millions from nations.. child trafficking.. and treason, for letting terrorists into our country. the set up they have with barry and joe... is not legal and not in the constitution.. yet, you let it continue .. you are a worthless lot of human left overs.


24 posted on 04/22/2024 2:42:20 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: jimwatx

“That should be sufficient to scare enough people so that they will think twice before voting for Biden.”

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You’re thinking too logically. Its the sheeple who will vote for Biden/Harris. And there are lots of them.


25 posted on 04/22/2024 2:42:42 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: nickcarraway

Time for President Trump to let loose a VP selection.


26 posted on 04/22/2024 2:43:13 PM PDT by MagillaX
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America Honors Earth Day By Recycling Used Presidential Candidates

https://babylonbee.com/news/america-honors-earth-day-by-recycling-its-used-presidential-candidates


27 posted on 04/22/2024 2:43:33 PM PDT by Rio
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To: frank ballenger

I actually thought most of it was pretty straight forward, missing the usual American media bias when referring to Lake or Trump.


28 posted on 04/22/2024 2:45:30 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: nickcarraway
Trump’s ever-growing list of controversies and court cases might be buoying his populist political base but they are turning off many independents and more moderate Republican voters

Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows what is going on, that it's un-American, dishonest, unjust, abusive of prosecutorial and judicial power, cruel, fascistic persecution from the pit of hell.

People might be tired of seeing daily rations of this crappola; but I don't think it turns them off to Trump.

Too often commentators try to lump Biden and Trump into the same ball of wax. The real Americans are smarter than that. There is no comparison. There is massive love and empathy for Trump. For Biden, those who tolerate him and find him useful do so while holding their noses. Nobody actually likes him.

29 posted on 04/22/2024 2:50:26 PM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Biden and Gore were influential vice-presidents? Who knew?


30 posted on 04/22/2024 2:50:29 PM PDT by Inquiring Minds
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To: nickcarraway

Orange Man Bad, Part II.


31 posted on 04/22/2024 2:51:17 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: nickcarraway

Pay Kamala off to say she has health issues. Dem supporters won’t question it even if none of them really believe it


32 posted on 04/22/2024 2:55:19 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: nickcarraway

They might as well be looking to a president Xi then.


33 posted on 04/22/2024 2:55:54 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was off the ping list.)
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To: frank ballenger

Exactly. I’ve never seen a group of people who could like
much better than them, except for the democrats in the U.S.


34 posted on 04/22/2024 2:56:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands. )
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To: jimwatx

I don’t know how many blacks support her, but if they tried to replace her there would be outrage from some groups.


35 posted on 04/22/2024 2:56:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: frnewsjunkie

Trump didn’t want them not to give the money, and he didn’t go against Johnson.


36 posted on 04/22/2024 2:58:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Arab


37 posted on 04/22/2024 2:59:41 PM PDT by ABStrauss (I miss Rush! )
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To: nickcarraway

Andrew Hammond appears to believe that Jimmy Carter was re-elected and that Walter Mondale was the sitting vice president in 1984.


38 posted on 04/22/2024 3:09:06 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
Andrew Hammond was also wrong about George Bush in 1988--he was still vice president, not a former vice president.

In 1988 he didn't have to use his middle initials.

39 posted on 04/22/2024 3:10:40 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: All

There is no point in a Swamp VP candidate. The correct choice is someone with zero political credentials.


40 posted on 04/22/2024 3:13:53 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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