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“You hear all the time from folks who support endless funding to Ukraine that unless we send resources to Ukraine, Vladimir Putin will march all the way to Berlin or Paris. Well, first of all, this doesn’t make any sense. Vladimir Putin can’t get to western Ukraine. How is he going to get all the way to Paris? And second of all, if Vladimir Putin is a threat to Germany and France, if he’s a threat to Berlin and Paris, then they should spend more money on military equipment.”
1 posted on 04/24/2024 2:04:28 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

US foreign policy might be imperfect but we haven’t had another world war in eighty years. That’s quite a success.


2 posted on 04/24/2024 2:06:40 PM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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To: hardspunned

“We have learned that if we beat our chests instead of engaging in diplomacy, that it will somehow produce good outcomes? “

What “diplomacy” is Vance referring to? More like Obama’s “diplomacy”?? or Biden’s???

War can be unnecessary, true enough, but history also shows that sometimes “diplomacy” does not always prevent war, particulalry when one side is using “diplmacy” only to make some war advantage to themselves.


3 posted on 04/24/2024 2:11:35 PM PDT by Wuli ( )
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To: hardspunned

“And second of all, if Vladimir Putin is a threat to Germany and France, if he’s a threat to Berlin and Paris, then they should spend more money on military equipment.”

And they are.


5 posted on 04/24/2024 2:12:44 PM PDT by Wuli ( )
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To: hardspunned

WHY ARE WE YELLING!


10 posted on 04/24/2024 2:34:58 PM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: hardspunned

Yet the US is mightier than ever vs the world.

Yet the US ended war in Northern and Western Europe=among the most violent places on earth so people could live to 80yo without being warred upon in some cities for t5he first time in centuries.

Yet no every other year 9/11 as was promised.

Total failure.

The rhetoric is more similar to the crying over the Reagan deficits/arms race that bankrupted the USSR.

Day 9 of the devastating Iranian counter attack that is never coming.

Week 1 of the certain nuke attack that is coming next weelk or in weeks that will never actually take place.


11 posted on 04/24/2024 2:37:46 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: hardspunned

Bush policy was go to war and bomb the crap out of people first. Screw the diplomacy part. Then try to nation build and boss said country around until the place you are squatting gets sick and tired of your presence and bullying and starts throwing their shoes at you.

Then you pick up and leave and the place goes back to what it was before you ever bombed them OR it becomes even worse than it was.


12 posted on 04/24/2024 2:40:54 PM PDT by dforest
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