Posted on 05/01/2024 3:58:40 PM PDT by Coronal
The Arizona Senate passed a repeal of the state’s near-total ban on abortion on Wednesday, capping a weekslong legislative scramble to respond to the state Supreme Court’s bombshell ruling that upheld the law from 1864.
The bill, which the state House approved last week, will soon head to Democratic Gov. Katie Hobbs. Hobbs said she expects to sign the bill as early as Wednesday night.
Two state Senate Republicans — Shawnna Bolick and T.J. Shope — joined all 14 Democrats in the narrowly divided chamber in approving a repeal of the Civil War-era law that held the power to send a doctor to prison for providing nearly any kind of abortion care.
With the support of those two Republican senators, Democrats in the chamber quickly overcame procedural hurdles and swiftly moved to vote.
Bolick, in a lengthy and nuanced speech ahead of casting her pivotal vote, told several emotional stories of women who experienced major complications during pregnancy and needed care that would likely be restricted under the 1864 law — while also making clear her opposition to reproductive health groups and abortion providers like Planned Parenthood.
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Childkilling & weed are now the most important issues to the populace of a dying nation.
AZ is a Democrat state now. One step above CA, if that. It didn’t matter how Republicans voted.
‘The point’ = political expediency to win an election.
The plague of boils on the Egyptians was begun by ‘Take to you handfuls of ashes of the furnace’ and thrown into the air - these ashes were taken from the locations of their sacrifices made to their gods - this included human sacrifices
The point = we are expected to stand in the gap; our choices demonstrate our political will; we have abdicated that will to lesser men - the disease of complacency has spread as dust on the breeze to our ultimate demise
We are all to blame Trump is better than what we have now; but continuing to run for political office as a game show host does nothing to improve the future.
Besides, it has been revealed how it develops and ends - let us who remain stand for a truth that is older than our Constitution and cultivate personal relationships that save souls. Playing with the mobs gets you the toys - perhaps we need to learn how to be neighborly again.
“The point’ = political expediency to win an election.”
REALITY: We can win an election and get SOMETHING, or lose and lose EVERYTHING.
Do you want abortion to 9 months for any reason? Because that is what you are working to get.
you are correct, laws and morality are disparate
“…with the intention to procure the miscarriage of any woman then being with child…” is one thing, but performing a D&C on a woman whose baby has died in the womb is another. Abortion proponents claim a woman cannot seek treatment for an ectopic pregnancy or a missed abortion (miscarriage) but that’s a lie. If the fetus is dead or will die due to implantation in the fallopian tube which is incompatible with life, then medical treatment would be permissible. Those circumstances make up the majority of cases. I had 4 early miscarriages myself for which I never sought treatment because my body took care of the situation. If I had needed it, however, treatment would have been legal under this ban.
Except the left smells blood in the water and they’re on record as saying, directly after this vote, that they would be pushing for a 24-week limit instead of 15 weeks. Once they get the 24-week limit, they’ll push for 40 weeks. They just never stop, especially with a Democrat governor & AG. So nothing will have changed after all which is a travesty.
“Except the left smells blood in the water and they’re on record as saying, directly after this vote, that they would be pushing for a 24-week limit instead of 15 weeks. “
HUGE difference: Polls indicate large numbers of Arizonans are HAPPY with a 15 week limit, and seriously, how do you argue 15 weeks needs to be extended to 24?
The majority of people are “in between” people. They don’t want people aborting healthy babies because they broke up with their boyfriend, but neither do they want every abortion illegal. For example, exceptions for rape and incest are VERY popular, but a 15 week limit incorporates those.
My point is that a nearly total ban on abortion doesn’t have the support needed to remain law, and if people are forced to chose between 0 abortions and unlimited, Arizona will choose unlimited.
But if forced to choose between a 15 week limit and 9 months, we can win. And it time, I think we can shift the argument down to 6-8 weeks, while there is no way the left can argue 15 weeks isn’t enough.
“ectopic pregnancy or a missed abortion (miscarriage)” have always been allowed exceptions to abortion laws and I know that. Obviously, lots of voters do not. And the media won’t tell them.
But under the 1864 law, a 15 year old girl raped by her uncle has to carry the baby to term. Is that moral? Yes. Is it POLITICALLY acceptable to most people in Arizona? No.
Working to get?
Already here; along with euthanasia, transgender mutilation, no crime for crossing border illegally, medical freedom can be restricted at any time (Obamacare was the leverage with Medicare/Medicaid the fulcrum on which the balance weighs), FACE act has people in prison, J6ers framed to cover election fraud. Honestly, all the hard work the anti-abortion industry put into this got them what they wanted - an issue to create stark divisions and make money off people that want it to end.
Winning hasn’t got much for any of us when it has happened.
What will Trump get us? If it is the same Trump as in 2016 - we know what will happen. I don’t want it to be - but looking at the attitudes around us I don’t see political solutions providing a ‘win’. We will have Gaza Strip across the nation before November 2024. What will matter then?
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