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How California's Ban on Diesel Locomotives Could Have Major National Repercussions
Reason ^ | May 2, 2024 | Veronique De Rugy

Posted on 05/02/2024 1:07:55 PM PDT by karpov

American federalism is struggling. Federal rules are an overwhelming presence in every state government, and some states, due to their size or other leverage, can impose their own policies on much or all of the country. The problem has been made clearer by an under-the-radar plan to phase out diesel locomotives in California. If the federal government provides the state with a helping hand, it would bring nationwide repercussions for a vital, overlooked industry.

Various industry and advocacy groups are lining up against California's costly measure, calling on the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to deny a waiver needed to fully implement it. In the past month, more than 30 leading conservative organizations and individuals, hundreds of state and local chambers of commerce, and the U.S. agricultural sector have pleaded with the EPA to help stop this piece of extremism from escaping one coastal state.

Railroads may not be something most Americans, whose attention is on their own cars and roads, think about often. But rail is the most basic infrastructure of interstate commerce, accounting for around 40 percent of long-distance ton-miles. It's also fairly clean, accounting for less than 1 percent of total U.S. emissions. Private companies, like Union Pacific in the West or CSX in the East, pay for their infrastructure and equipment. These facts haven't stopped the regulatory power grab.

Most importantly, the California Air Resources Board (CARB) regulation would have all freight trains operate in zero-emission configuration by 2035. At the end of the decade, the state is mandating the retirement of diesel locomotives 23 years or older, despite typically useful lives of over 40 years. Starting in 2030, new passenger locomotives must operate with zero emissions, with new engines for long-haul freight trains following by 2035. It limits locomotive idling and increases reporting requirements.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; diesel; trains
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To: 5th MEB

Harry Reid, are you still trying to arrange pork for your birthplace?


61 posted on 05/02/2024 6:32:53 PM PDT by null and void (Everyone on all sides a conflict will be happy to lie to you, except our side, of course!)
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To: microgood
Freight cars shipping goods from Central and Western Europe into former Tsarist/Soviet territory had to be adjusted for a different rail gauge. Rail freight coming into California from Arizona, Nevada, and Oregon could be switched from diesel to electric locomotives near the state line.
62 posted on 05/02/2024 6:39:10 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: cableguymn
Truckers join the TEAMSTERS union for a reason...


63 posted on 05/02/2024 7:18:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jerod
...maybe just sell it to Mexico.

Mexico would NOT put up with the crap that is passing for 'law' in California these dahys!

64 posted on 05/02/2024 7:20:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Adder

One corn or 20 mules?


65 posted on 05/02/2024 7:21:37 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DesertRhino
We are ruled by idiots.

Why?

The public has been cajoled into thinking that PUBLIC 'servant' means something else.

66 posted on 05/02/2024 7:23:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Red Badger
The people of California must be insane.................

There's two Californias. There's the California that extends from the beach to about 15 miles inland. And then there's the rest of the state. Unfortunately, the first group of Californians control everything.

67 posted on 05/02/2024 7:24:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Stosh
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68 posted on 05/02/2024 7:27:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tell It Right

Hybrid…


69 posted on 05/02/2024 7:48:37 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: karpov

So much comes into California ports, it will cause serious issues. Great opportunity for Mexico. Build large port in Ensenada and work on rail line connecting into Union Pacific in Yuma, AZ. Bypass California all together.


70 posted on 05/02/2024 7:57:51 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: Elsie

71 posted on 05/02/2024 9:05:18 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: Tell It Right
Let's see, they are all electric, for the drive wheels, with a electric motor on each drive axle.

The deisel engine is simply a generator driving motor.

So, in essence, it is all electric, just like a tesla. The difference is that while the tesla plugs into a charge staion that is hooked up to a gas or coal or deisel powered eletricity generating plant, the train simply carries a deisel with it, a portable charging station. The embicles wish to cancel the portable charging station that the electric locomotive uses to run it's electric motors.

72 posted on 05/02/2024 9:30:50 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: hanamizu

> Yes, that would be great. But are the power plants generating the electricity also ‘zero emission’? If not, then what’s the point?

In the second link that i gave, it is stated that

“Annual emissions reduced by 250K MTC02...
equivalent to taking 55,000 cars off the road”

(aeemingly, this is only valid if one ascribes CO2 production as a big threat to the environment)


73 posted on 05/02/2024 10:51:22 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: DesertRhino

> Where is the electricity for trains going to come from?

I dunno; perhaps from conservation engendered by “conservative” PG&E rate hikes?:

‘It’s A Huge Problem’: California’s Sky-High Electricity Prices Bring A Shock To Biden’s EV Dreams
dailycallernewsfoundation.org/ ^ | 4/7/2022 | Thomas Catenacci
Posted on 4/8/2022, 7:48:55 AM by rktman

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4053347/posts


74 posted on 05/02/2024 11:02:57 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: karpov

Put solar panels on top of the locomotives. Problem solved.


75 posted on 05/02/2024 11:09:25 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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To: cymbeline

> Isn’t that how the European trains are powered?

according to the article link below, European railroads are 60% electrified, and the percentage is climbing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelbarnard/2023/11/24/most-rail-is-already-electric-and-all-will-be-even-in-north-america/?sh=7bc1000b7e92


76 posted on 05/02/2024 11:11:59 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: jerod
I agree entirely. So sick of these idiots and stunted adolescents masquerading as adults coming up with hare brained schemes we're all supposed to be on board with. Sick and tired of them getting government subsidies which really come from every American taxpayer.

Let California rot on the vine.

77 posted on 05/03/2024 12:00:49 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Stosh

Are you sure that this URL address iscorrect?

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4235230/Sailing-Car-1830-Na-Wind-Powered-Locomotive-On-The-South-Carolina-Railroad-19-March-Contemporary-American-Wood-Engraving-Poster-Print-18-x-24_933ee8d8-dec3-4034-bc42-b5ba10740fd2_1.87cea0267e0c749dba9e9ab6d1bb4e28


78 posted on 05/03/2024 3:54:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SteveH

“according to the article link below, European railroads are 60% electrified, and the percentage is climbing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelbarnard/2023/11/24/most-rail-is-already-electric-and-all-will-be-even-in-north-america/?sh=7bc1000b7e92

Interesting article. I think electric train propulsion with overhead wires is a good idea. The article is worth reading.

The author is a greenie so, for instance, I’m not sure of his claim that truck hauling using battery powered trucks will put a lot of rail lines out of business.

I’d also like to know why there hasn’t been more electrification of our rail lines. The rail transportation industry needs to tell its side of the story.


79 posted on 05/03/2024 4:41:44 AM PDT by cymbeline (we saw men break out of a concentration camp.”)
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To: karpov

I have invented the “trans” locomotive:
It’s a physically diesel-electric unit, but identifies as all-electric. The Left will not be able to resist my locomotives without falling headlong into abject transphobia.


80 posted on 05/03/2024 12:29:26 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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