Posted on 05/08/2024 9:23:11 AM PDT by delta7
The ink was barely dry on President Biden’s signature transferring another $61 billion to the black hole called Ukraine, when the mainstream media broke the news that this was not the parting shot in a failed US policy. The elites have no intention of shutting down this gravy train, which transports wealth from the middle and working class to the wealthy and connected class.
Reuters wrote right after the aid bill was passed that, “Ukraine’s $61 billion lifeline is not enough.” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell went on the Sunday shows after the bill was passed to say that $61 billion is “not a whole lot of money for us…” Well, that’s easy for him to say – after all it’s always easier to spend someone else’s money!
Ukraine’s foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, was far from grateful for the $170 billion we have shipped thus far to his country. In an interview with Foreign Policy magazine as the aid package was passed, Kuleba had the nerve to criticize the US for not producing weapons fast enough. “If you cannot produce enough interceptors to help Ukraine win the war against the country that wants to destroy the world order, then how are you going to win in the war against perhaps an enemy who is stronger than Russia?” How’s that for a “thank you”?
It may be understandable why the Ukrainians are frustrated. Most of this money is not going to help them fight Russia. US military aid to Ukraine has left our own stockpiles of weapons depleted, so the money is going to create new production lines to replace weapons already sent to Ukraine. It’s all about the US weapons industry. President Biden admitted as much when he said, “we are helping Ukraine while at the same time investing in our own industrial base.”
This is why Washington Is desperate to make sure that if Donald Trump returns to the White House, the “Ukraine” gravy train cannot be shut down by his – or future – administrations. Last week news broke that the Ukrainian government was in negotiations with the Biden Administration to sign a ten-year security agreement that would lock in US funding for Ukraine for the next two and a half US Administrations. That would unconstitutionally tie future presidents’ hands when it comes to foreign policy and would leave Americans on the hook for untold billions more dollars taken from them and sent to the weapons industry and to a corrupt foreign government.
The US weapons industry and its cheerleaders in Washington DC are determined to keep Ukraine money flowing…until they can figure out a way to gin up a war with China after losing the current war with Russia. That, of course, depends on whether there is anything left of us when the smoke clears.
When President Biden signed the $95 billion bill to keep wars going in Ukraine and Gaza and to provoke a future war with China, he called it “a good day for world peace.” Yes, and “War is peace.” Debt is good. Freedom is slavery. We are living in a post-truth society where billions spent on pointless wars are “not a whole lot of money.” But the piper will be paid and the debt will be cleared.
My disdain for the political elite grows every day
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled The Great Ukraine Robbery is Not Over Yet, ansel12 wrote: “”””But almost none of the money allocated goes to Ukraine. It goes to US based manufacturers of military equipment to buy new equipment that replaces the obsolete equipment and expired munitions being sent to Ukraine.””””
American needs right there, we can’t protect ourselves against Red China and Russia without the means to fight, and as countless posts made here over the last 27 months have said, our weapons and ammo production had stagnated and been reduced so much that we were not prepared to face them.
Our enemies are flooding our borders - borders are always the first line of defense. Weapons without borders makes zero sense. Borders and whatever weapons we have left supporting those borders makes sense.
Your post made no sense.
The border issue is important and destroying us but undoing our ability to defend ourselves against foreign militaries in no way fixes the domestic political fight with the democrats over immigration and border enforcement.
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled The Great Ukraine Robbery is Not Over Yet, ansel12 wrote: Your post made no sense.
The border issue is important and destroying us but undoing our ability to defend ourselves against foreign militaries in no way fixes the domestic political fight with the democrats over immigration and border enforcement.
Foreign fighters are flooding over our borders - that is an existential threat. It's not just a "domestic political fight with the democrats over immigration...."
I don’t know why you play this childish troll game.
Look at all your recent posts and notice that you do a lot of posting that isn’t about the border, including military issues and NATO issues, in fact, not much on the border.
Quit playing and games and actually respond to my posts.
“”””But almost none of the money allocated goes to Ukraine. It goes to US based manufacturers of military equipment to buy new equipment that replaces the obsolete equipment and expired munitions being sent to Ukraine.””””
American needs right there, we can’t protect ourselves against Red China and Russia without the means to fight, and as countless posts made here over the last 27 months have said, our weapons and ammo production had stagnated and been reduced so much that we were not prepared to face them.
Public spitting, defecation, urination, masturbation — shamelessness was part of Diogenes the Cynic’s philosophical strategy
Your view might describe America from the 1880s to the 1930s or 1970s or even the 1990s, but it had little to do with antebellum America and has even less to do with the United States today. The defeat of the South in the Civil War and the problems of the newly settled states made the Northeast dominant in the American economy from the end of that war until more recent times.
That wasn't the case before the Civil War. The North was gradually industrializing, but it wasn't robbing the cotton rich South of anything. If you aren't developing industry and financial institutions, or if other regions are doing it better than you are, you will have to pay somebody for the products you don't produce at home. The antebellum South had great power in American politics, and wasn't dominated by anyone else.
The development of the South and West in the last 50 years has made the Northeast less powerful in the economy. You don't have to be in NYC and pay high taxes to trade in the markets. You don't have to have factories in the Northern states or have a corporate headquarters in New York or Chicago or Detroit or Cleveland anymore. Northern Rustbelt cities have declined and the Sunbelt has risen. The same elite urban or suburban culture prevails in Atlanta or Charlotte and in NYC or LA. Our current divisions are ideological not regional.
Run along and play, ansel12. You’re wasting my time with your games.
Weak and childish, just don’t respond when you can’t.
“ I used to think Ron Paul was a great American. Then my eyes were opened, and I now know that he has never been anything more than an ignorant nihilist.”
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Kinda like how Michael Johnson’s eyes were opened? Oh, Chad you’ve always been such a silly globalist.
It’s always the same with “your post(s) makes no sense.”
There’s a pattern there and perhaps the lack is in comprehension and not in the post. :0)
When the laws of the nation force you to buy their products at highly inflated prices, you are putting money in their pockets. When the laws of the nation force you to hire, at excessively high rates, their shipping, banking, insurance, warehousing, etc. , you are putting money in their pockets.
When there are high taxes on everything *YOU* want to buy, but low taxes on everything *THEY* want to buy, you are putting money in their pockets.
When the government spends the tax money mostly on them, though they only produced 28% of it, you are putting money in their pockets.
You say all this is natural, but it sure seems to correspond to their control of congress, same then as it is today.
There is a reason they coined the term "Robber Barons" for the gilded era. That is how they behaved, and they had undue influence on government, same then as today.
The same elite urban or suburban culture prevails in Atlanta or Charlotte and in NYC or LA. Our current divisions are ideological not regional.
Generally divided along the lines of Urban vs Rural, same then as today.
The Cities are liberal, the countryside is conservative. There is something about densely populated cities that make people crazy. I don't know what it is, but i've seen it so often I no longer think of it as a theory.
Try reading the posts.
Try another line.
There is no line, a fact is a fact, for instance your posts on this thread haven’t said anything or made any sense, just hostility.
One post...not posts. Further, you are mighty indignant at being typecasted, aren’t you?
Posts, not one and you don’t seem to have anything useful to say, you got on the thread as a stalking troll to post a personal attack.
NEOCON, please. It's Putin who's the globalist. Russky Mir and all that.
No personal attack directed specifically at you or named. Trying to invoke the “rules” like mommy? Weak.
I despise the people who used the Ukrainians to fight a war they cannot win. They caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians for their own greed. Ukraine is a big money kickback scheme. The politicians vote to send billions to Ukraine. The money goes to the defense industry and the defense industry funds the campaigns of the corrupt politicians. The average Ukrainian gets death and suffering. It’s cruel to give them just enough to fight but not nearly enough to win. That is despicable. Just like Biden and the neocons.
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