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Ninth Circuit: Felon Has ‘Right to Possess Firearm for Self-Defense’
Breitbart ^ | 05/10/2024 | AWR HAWKINS

Posted on 05/10/2024 11:39:56 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

On Thursday a three-judge panel from the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit decided that Steven Duarte, a felon, has a “right to possess a firearm for self-defense.”

Courthouse News Service noted Duarte has five felony convictions and was a member of a street gang in Los Angeles.

The decision upholding Duarte’s gun rights was split, with George W. Bush appointee Carlos Bea and Donald Trump appointee Lawrence VanDyke deciding in the majority.

Bea wrote the majority opinion, noted the panel tested the prohibition against felons possessing guns in light of Bruen (2022) and found the government did not have a sufficient substantiation.

Bruen requires that gun control align with historical tradition and the intent of America’s founders. Bea and VanDyke did not believe the blanket prohibition against felons possessing firearms survived scrutiny.

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To: Republican in occupied CA

I think we must mandate that felons regain their 2nd Amendment rights after they have served their sentences because the federal and state governments are in the process of making political opposition into felons. If a citizen is so dangerous that they cannot be trusted with firearms then they do not belong out of prison and the government can pay to keep them there. Gun control is just incarceration on the cheap.


21 posted on 05/10/2024 12:46:53 PM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Felons can have black-powder firearms, as they don’t fall under the legal definition of firearms.

So don’t be surprised to see gangsters shooting it out with muskets and cap & ball revolvers.

😆


22 posted on 05/10/2024 12:47:51 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Republican in occupied CA

So true and its not like felons abide by the law anyway. If they want a gun they’ll get a gun.


23 posted on 05/10/2024 12:48:02 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Felon should not possess firearms while incarcerated. But allowed back into the general population, everyone of adult age should be able to protect one’s life with arms. They are not to be used while in the process of, or to perpetrate a crime; nor to threaten, the way I see it.


24 posted on 05/10/2024 12:48:36 PM PDT by imardmd1 (To learn is to live; the joy of living: to teach. Fiat Lux!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The RKBA is absolute. There are no exceptions.Felons will get and carry guns.That cannot be stopped. Proper laws criminalize certain uses of guns, such as commission of crimes with them.


25 posted on 05/10/2024 1:13:31 PM PDT by arthurus ( covfefe In)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I support this decision for 2 reasons:

1. To have ruled otherwise would have given the gun grabbing snakes a hole to slither in to seek through lawfare another frivolous gun law.

2. Someone on this thread said ...”felons will get a gun anyway”. That’s been proven beyond all doubt a million times.


26 posted on 05/10/2024 1:26:58 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Glad to see this. The idea that felons lose the right to own firearms never made any sense. It was a fig leaf for gun grabbers. The kind of people who would obey this law aren’t career criminals anyway. The ban is a solution looking for a problem.


27 posted on 05/10/2024 1:49:00 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: imardmd1

[Felon should not possess firearms while incarcerated. But allowed back into the general population, everyone of adult age should be able to protect one’s life with arms. They are not to be used while in the process of, or to perpetrate a crime; nor to threaten, the way I see it.]


Indeed. What we need isn’t gun bans for felons. It’s three strikes laws for serial felons.


28 posted on 05/10/2024 1:51:59 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: monkeyshine
Long overdue.



29 posted on 05/10/2024 2:05:49 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Zhang Fei

Re: Tag line:

My dad moved from an 88 to a ‘73 Imperial. I had to use that for my first driving test. Like parallel parking a house.
A friend won the local demolition derby with it years later.


30 posted on 05/10/2024 2:10:53 PM PDT by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Nope...can’t agree with that.


31 posted on 05/10/2024 2:44:36 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: Disambiguator

They’ll need to keep their powder dry.


32 posted on 05/10/2024 2:47:52 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: ChicagoConservative27

That’s the right call. If they can’t be trusted to be armed, they should be secured somewhere or dead, not running around loose.


33 posted on 05/10/2024 2:53:14 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

For me, it depends on the felony. Nonviolent felons should not have their second amendment rights removed.


34 posted on 05/10/2024 2:55:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz (To anyone who also wants to see the Stealth Liberal 'joesbucks' banned, contact me by Freepmail. )
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To: TianaHighrider

That’s what I came here to say, but you said it better than I could.


35 posted on 05/10/2024 3:04:01 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. PTL ~ Þ)
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To: Republican in occupied CA

Could have the Chicago Police train the gang bangers to do fatal head shots which would lessen hits to innocent bystanders, increase the amount of organs for organ transplants to rich people, lessen gang related ammunition costs.


36 posted on 05/10/2024 3:07:52 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (We used to be a Republic, we are now a Fascist Klepto-Thugocracy.)
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To: All

The Constitution applies to all citizens. Even those we may not like or trust.


37 posted on 05/10/2024 4:19:06 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: bigbob

Shall not be infringed is pretty clear. I have no problem with it. As Robert Heinlein said “An armed society is a a polite society.”


38 posted on 05/10/2024 4:37:42 PM PDT by 6ppc (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act -George Orwell)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It was perfectly legal to sell a firearm to a felon before Dec 1968.
Here is an old Texas case I found in the highly suppressed Senate Report on the Right to Keep and Bear Arms 1982

https://guncite.com/journals/senrpt/senrpt.html

17. * Jennings v. State, 5 Tex. Crim. App. 298, at 300-01 (1878).

“We believe that portion of the act which provides that, in case of conviction, the defendant shall forfeit to the county the weapon or weapons so found on or about his person is not within the scope of legislative authority. * * * One of his most sacred rights is that of having arms for his own defence and that of the State. This right is one of the surest safeguards of liberty and self-preservation.”


39 posted on 05/10/2024 4:40:53 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: bigbob

If a person is deemed fit enough to be out of prison and out in society, all of his rights should be restored. If not - keep them in prison.


40 posted on 05/10/2024 4:49:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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