[Zhang Fei]

Ukraine ping

Desertrhino: [Very different in several ways. One, that was the USSR was a very different entity than Russia. And the war was a proxy war 6000 miles from either of our homes.

Second, this time our proxies are having Brit technicians shoot missiles at targets inside Russia proper. NATO (quit pretending it’s the idiot Ukes) has hit one of their strategic missile radars deep inside Russia. That’s equivalent to someone hitting our DEW radars.

They have hit their Engels nuclear bomber base in Saratov. They have attacked the Kerch Bridge and the German Air Force was just caught on an open zoom call discussing their plans to use German missiles, fired by Germans, to hit Kerch again. The Moskva cruiser sinking was US P-8 Poseidons doing the targeting for British missile crews to conduct an over the horizon attack.

For your analogy to work about Vietnam, Russia would have had to be hitting our DEW line in Alaska, maybe hitting Barksdale and Minot airbases, sinking a US ship in international waters etc.

It’s a foolish game we are playing, and for nothing except globalist power games on behalf of a resurgent nazi country...and of course, our leaders are getting enriched.

This is nothing like Vietnam. And last but not least. The leaders we had then, as bad as they could be, were all light years smarter than ours today.

You put Biden, Sullivan, and Nuland against Nixon, McNamara, and Kissinger? Put any leader today against childless Macron, childless Boris Johnson, Childless Olaf Sholtz, senile Joe Biden, etc.
No comparison.

These clowns are horny for war. They have wanted war with Russia for two decades at least. And now the EU gnats think they are going to be able to take the Russians down.

They have successfully got us into a new cold war at the moment our economy is collapsing. And these clowns could actually miscalculate and get nuked. They won’t stop until forced to.]

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The folks who ran the Vietnam War were a bunch of incompetents. Only two decades after large scale city-bombing completely destroyed the morale of conquered populations, leading to a complete lack of postwar guerilla activity in the razed Axis countries, they convinced themselves that repeating these operations was a mistake. And yet every single time North Vietnam made concessions was in response to a large scale bombing campaign. They snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Putin won’t nuke the West because if he does, we will kill him, his family, all of his friends and all of their families, as well as all of Russia. There’s no coming back from that. Russia can recover from foreign conquest, as it did from the Mongols. It will never recover from physical extermination.

And he won’t attack the West conventionally because it would invite not only defeat in Ukraine, but also the destruction of his conventional forces in Russia proper. The US has plenty of air assets in Europe to deliver ordnance against Russian targets on Russian soil. Putin’s not going to give the US the excuse it needs to start flattening Russian air bases and supply nodes.

[marshmallow]

Putin has no need to nuke America. All that needs to be done to defeat America is to turn off the electricity. We'll do the rest, ourselves.

No electricity in Russia = people making do as best they can in an orderly, civilized manner.

No electricity in America = riots, looting and anarchy.

There's no need for missiles, bombs and military mobilization to bring America to its knees. It can be done by someone sitting at a computer terminal. The enemy is us. The Russians know this.

[DesertRhino]

“The US has plenty of air assets in Europe to deliver ordnance against Russian targets on Russian soil.”

Call your flying monkeys Chinaman. I don’t care. But you are a loon if you think we can openly conduct airstrikes -inside- Russia and the Russians would never DARE hit us back. Hate to break it to you, but the pressure Putin faces domestically is that he is being too weak.
After the Russians got nukes, it became a near religious article of faith over there that Russia would never again face war on their own soil, as it has so many times from Europe, without the attackers being wiped out at that moment.

They think the days of Napoleon, the Crimean War, the US/Brit intervention in the Russian Civil War, WWI, WWII were finally in the “never again” zone because the attacker would not remain safe and untouched in their homelands ever again. Its’ a deeply held matter of doctrine.

Your whole argument is “they wouldn’t dare, even if we bomb them inside Russia”. So call all of your government Uke shill bots. Don’t care a bit. But I am glad to know you disliked what I said.

Flak.... Target.

[DesertRhino]

By the way Chinaman, half your ping list has been zotted or hasn’t posted in over a year. LOL