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Biden’s polling denial: Why he doesn't believe he's behind
Axios via MSN ^ | 14 May 24 | Hans Nichols

Posted on 05/14/2024 1:52:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

President Biden doesn't believe his bad poll numbers, and neither do many of his closest advisers, according to people familiar with the matter.

Why it matters: The dismissiveness of the poor polling is sincere, not public spin, according to Democrats who have spoken privately with the president and his team.

That bedrock belief has informed Biden's largely steady-as-she-goes campaign — even as many Democrats outside the White House are agitating for the campaign to change direction, given that Biden is polling well behind where he was four years ago.

The public polling simply doesn't reflect the president's support, they say.

Driving the news: In public and private, Biden has been telling anyone who will listen that he's gaining ground — and is probably up — on Donald Trump in their rematch from 2020. "While the press doesn't write about it, the momentum is clearly in our favor, with the polls moving towards us and away from Trump," Biden told donors in Medina, Wash., on Saturday. A few days earlier, confronted with some of his bad poll numbers in a rare interview with CNN, Biden offered a more sweeping indictment of polling methodology.

"The polling data has been wrong all along. How many — you guys do a poll at CNN. How many folks you have to call to get one response?" Zoom in: The latest polling in the six battleground states likely to decide the presidential race — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — doesn't paint a rosy picture for Biden.

A new New York Times/Sienna survey, which sampled more than 4,000 people across the swing states, had Trump winning five of them among registered voters.

A Bloomberg News poll last month similarly found Biden trailing Trump in six of seven swing states (they also polled North Carolina).

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; basement; biden; bunker; dementiajoe; demonicrats; elections; joe; loserjoe; trump; trump2024
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To: Erik Latranyi

They are not in denial.

They have an elaborate plan to cheat.


41 posted on 05/14/2024 4:07:07 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: JonPreston

[Thank you for our morning dose of #NeverTrump. It’s a pleasure watching you folks become marginalized.]


I’m not and have never been a never Trumper. I voted for the scumbag twice, and I’ll vote for him again. He’s a scumbag, but he’s our scumbag.


42 posted on 05/14/2024 4:08:15 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Erik Latranyi

When you can manufacture 10+ million votes at 3:00am on a dime, you’re never in pole trouble


43 posted on 05/14/2024 4:09:43 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Libloather

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44 posted on 05/14/2024 4:10:10 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: Zhang Fei
I voted for the scumbag twice

Zhang Yee, I believe you as far as I can throw you.

45 posted on 05/14/2024 4:12:26 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Zhang Fei
Having spent about forty hours looking through fraud allegations, I’m convinced Biden won

I'll just let this one sit right here.

46 posted on 05/14/2024 4:14:38 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

What is his margin now in DE? People there should be ashamed of their political selections. Was DE a Tory state in the Revolution?


47 posted on 05/14/2024 4:15:15 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: tired&retired

Sadly, so do Fox and Newsmax.


48 posted on 05/14/2024 4:17:46 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: JonPreston

Are you saying trump didn’t get 74 million votes in 2020? The most of any republican in American history? Interesting!


49 posted on 05/14/2024 4:20:17 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: dpetty121263
It will happen fast at the Convention in Chicago..Biden will be replaced with Big Mike and fast...Will shock the Public...

Don't count Hillary out just yet. She's always believed she is entitled to the presidency and knows that if doesn't happen this year, it will never happen.

50 posted on 05/14/2024 4:22:35 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: JonPreston

[Zhang Yee, I believe you as far as I can throw you.]


Your problem is a need to hero worship pols. Most people vote for the lesser of two evils. Trump might be a liar and serial adulterer, but Biden promises 4 more years of loopy policies. For people looking for sound fiscal policies and an end to the DOJ’s attacks on local law enforcement efforts for DEI reasons, the choice is clear,


51 posted on 05/14/2024 4:22:36 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I’m a little weary of polls this far out from Election Day. The ground work still needs to be done.


52 posted on 05/14/2024 4:24:33 AM PDT by WarANDPiece
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To: Apparatchik

Exactly.


53 posted on 05/14/2024 4:24:48 AM PDT by Thomas Jerome
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To: Erik Latranyi

The polls mean nothing because they don’t take into account for democrat Cheating everywhere.


54 posted on 05/14/2024 4:24:54 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 Be Kind.)
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To: OHPatriot

“However I can dream that some well intentioned Patriots will turn those rocks over and STOMP them like bugs.”

Save your back and just stomp on the rocks. That’ll squish them without you having to put your lower lumbar in jeopardy.


55 posted on 05/14/2024 4:29:07 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Zhang Fei
Trump might be a liar and serial adulterer

He's neither. Please report back to CNN for additional talking points.

56 posted on 05/14/2024 4:29:53 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Zhang Fei

👍


57 posted on 05/14/2024 4:31:27 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: Erik Latranyi

Biden has no idea whether or not he’s behind or ahead in the polls. Most of his remarks come from his puppeteers. Any remarks suggesting he’s not behind in the polls are geared towards the useful idiots as well as laying ground work for the coming election steal so they can say I told you so.


58 posted on 05/14/2024 4:33:06 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Biden doesn’t believe inflation numbers or illegal immigration is happening. The Doobie Brothers sang the song “What a fool believes.” Maybe Biden believes the fix is in to cheat again.


59 posted on 05/14/2024 4:34:36 AM PDT by FreedBird
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To: MayflowerMadam

[But those kick-ass rallies with thousands of attendees prove that he’s ahead. Oh, wait...]


Rallies aren’t difficult to organize. Romney had huge rallies. Obama had none. Obama beat Romney by 4%.

People keep pointing to Trump rally size, but the fact is rally size means very little for get-out-the-vote (GOTV) drives. People who show up for rallies are already voting for the guy. A pol who does big rallies is just wasting his supporters’ time and his own campaign money. Traditional GOTV involves paying canvassers to get voters to the polls. Trump’s rallies were expensive, with one in Tulsa costing $2.2m. That could have paid for 100,000 canvasser hours.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/us/politics/trump-tulsa-rally-cost.html

Most campaigns don’t do big rallies because they don’t have unlimited cash. They can do rallies or they can have paid staff bring people to the polls. I’ve seen an estimate of $10 per ballot harvested. Trump’s $2.2m Tulsa rally, for a state that was already in the bag by 30+ points, was inexplicable, and could have been spent on harvesting 220,000 ballots in swing states. But rallies are the closest thing we have to a Roman triumph, and Trump likes the pageantry, so he spent the cash.


60 posted on 05/14/2024 4:43:43 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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