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Four US Planes Shot Down in Tora Bora (140 Spec Ops Dead too)
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Posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:22 AM PST by Jalapeno

TORA BORA (Institute for Islamic Studies and Research): During the last week, the Hamza Al-Ghamidi unit in the Tora Bora region has shot down four American warplanes and killed approximately 140 US Special Forces soldiers in a series of daily, multiple ambushes. Having withdrawn from parts of Tora Bora about ten days ago, the Mujahideen split up into small units in order to engage US Paratroopers that had dropped in the region in order to search its caves. Due to the cowardly nature of the American troops, they dropped 'Hummvee' jeeps and armoured vehicles with the soldiers. In a series of well-planned, multiple daily ambushes, the Hamza Al-Ghamidi unit attacked several bases and units of the Crusaders, killing approximately 140 of them. For the hypocrites and those with diseased hearts, such a figure is difficult to expect. However, in comparison with Mujahideen ambushes in Chechnya, a figure of 20 soldiers killed per day in multiple attacks, is actually quite small. It should be larger, but where it has not been possible to determine enemy dead, a lower figure has been given. The question arises, do the Mujahideen go round and count each dead body to arrive at these figures? The answer is that some dead bodies are clearly left behind and counted, whilst others are estimated from the number of destroyed vehicles. For example, if a Hummvee jeep with a normal capactiy of eight troops is destroyed and burnt to the shell, one can be confident that all eight troops on board were killed. As for the four warplanes, they were shot down using ordinary Anti-Aircraft weapons.

This report refutes the false claims by the World's media that the war is over in North East Afghanistan. Rather, it is proof that the promised guerilla war by the Mujahideen has begun and time will tell who was lying and who was speaking the truth.

There are no Chechen Mujahideen in Tora Bora, as has been repeatedly claimed by the Crusader media, that there are 200 of them. At no stage during the fighting in Tora Bora have there been any Chechen Mujahideen. These claims are made by the media in cheap attempts to 'incriminate' the Chechens as terrorists linked to Usama Bin Ladin, whom it is worthy to fight and kill.


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To: Tennessee_Bob
"...I'm waiting for the reports saying that they've been shooting down F-100 Super Sabres and our top of the line transport, the C-97..."

Omigod no! Not our flying boxcars!

Oh well, at least our guys will be able to cannibalize them by dragging the off-side wingtip over the plane, hooking it up to the remaining good engine boom and then flying back home to safety strapped to the wings!

21 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:39 AM PST by DWSUWF
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To: Lazamataz
I thought they were killed by Foul-Queda dirty looks
22 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:40 AM PST by clamper1797
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To: Jalapeno
Al Queda has attacked the Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor with fighters and bombers from a battle group containing 4 aircraft carriers!
23 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:42 AM PST by putupon
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To: Jalapeno
This reads like a HCI press release by Sarah Brady.
24 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:42 AM PST by Shooter 2.5
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To: Jalapeno
Are these just cub reporters waiting for their big time assignments at ABC, CBS and NBC?
25 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:42 AM PST by magoo_70115
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To: clamper1797
Good catch. The A-7 was a subsonic attack aircraft derived from the F-8 to replace the A-4. The A-7 was nicknamed the "SLUF", for Short Little Ugly ... er ... F-8!
26 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:43 AM PST by magellan
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To: Jalapeno
Thank God they didn't provide pictures of this carnage. Too busy killing infidels I guess.
27 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:43 AM PST by Gwaihir
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Shot down Crusaders? I thought the ol' A-7s were tougher than that. ;-)

Actually, the Crusader was the F8U (later the unified designation was simplified to just F-8). The A-7 Corsair II bore a resemblance to the Crusader, but without the variable attack wing and afterburner.

28 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:43 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: DWSUWF
All they need is a long flat spot to take off from. That, or push it off the top of a mountain.

Wow...it's been a while since I've seen that movie. I'll have to go look for it now.

29 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:44 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: Tennessee_Bob
The A-7 was the Corsair II. The F-8 was the Crusader.

I'm waiting for the reports saying that they've been shooting down F-100 Super Sabres and our top of the line transport, the C-97.

They'd know paradise was just around the corner if we could run some B-17's in on them.

Walt

30 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:44 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: GoredInMich
Perhaps I am arguing semantics, but hey, I am a stickler for detail.

Good, then you won't mind me noting that both the Air Force and Navy flew A-7's. As far as I know, only the Navy flew the F-8's. Although, my details may not be correct. ;)

31 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:45 AM PST by TankerKC
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To: Jalapeno

Pictured above photo taken today of one of the four aircraft shot down by the brave muja-ha-dim.

Film at eleven

32 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:45 AM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: DWSUWF
Omigod no! Not our flying boxcars!

I think that was the C-119.

Has anyone ever noticed the old fghters sitting in a field right off of I-75 in Dalton, Ga?

There's an F-8, an F-86D and an F-84, and several other aircraft including a CH-34, I think. They've been sitting there unchanged for at least 20 years.

Walt

33 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:45 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: GoredInMich
"I am a stickler for detail..."

Then I'm sure that you caught the mention of America's Newest Military Vehicle..............

...........The "Hummvee jeeps" ??

That's where I lost it - 'bout broke my chair.

34 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:45 AM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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To: TankerKC
Good, then you won't mind me noting that both the Air Force and Navy flew A-7's. As far as I know, only the Navy flew the F-8's . Although, my details may not be correct. ;)

The Marine Corps flew F-8's too. I know that may seem a small detail to some....

Walt

35 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:46 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: GoredInMich
Two different planes, although the sub-sonic A-7 was design was based on the F-8.

The A-7 Click here

The F-8 Click here

36 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:46 AM PST by csvset
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To: TankerKC
I believe you are correct, but the designation was not different. The F-8 was known as the Crusader.........and the A-7 was the Corsair (II).

(I may have to dig into the archives and make sure I am not spouting BS.................lol)

37 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:47 AM PST by GoredInMich
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To: magellan
..."SLUF", for Short Little Ugly ... er ... F-8!

By immutable rule (called the 'Explaining things to military moms rule'), the terminal "F" in such acronyms becomes "FF", standing for Fat Fellow.

38 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:54 AM PST by Grut
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To: WhiskeyPapa
I love the little details! I’m getting way off topic, but here is some info on the Corsair and Crusader.

F-8 Specs.

A-7 Specs.

39 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:55 AM PST by TankerKC
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To: clamper1797
You are right! They are hard to tell apart!

A7 in flight

F-8 Crusaders in formation


40 posted on 12/29/2001 12:11:55 AM PST by texson66
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