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Herculean task for modern scholars - More on the Discovered Roman Literature being unearthed.
The UK Times ^ | April 05, 2002 | By Robert Fowler

Posted on 04/05/2002 3:43:19 PM PST by vannrox

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1 posted on 04/05/2002 3:43:19 PM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
My God! Ye Gods! What a treasure!
2 posted on 04/05/2002 3:47:52 PM PST by null and void
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To: abwehr
Eeeeevil man!
4 posted on 04/05/2002 3:56:13 PM PST by null and void
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To: null and void
Go here to see the first related article that this refers to.
5 posted on 04/05/2002 3:57:18 PM PST by vannrox
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ALMOST all the texts we have of the ancient classics derive from generations of scribal copies, separated by many centuries from the originals.

With the exception of the New Testament documents, virtually all the other classic texts are represented by only a very few copies written many hundreds of years after the originals. The generations of scribal copying isn't too bad a thing unless one has only a very few copies to work with in which case it is difficult to get a good idea of what the original documents actually were. Polar opposites are the early Christian literature/New Testament and the Koran. In the former, there is such a wealth of literature that most of the New Testament can be reconstructed from quotes in the early church fathers alone. There is a very good degree of certainty about the text of the original writings as they existed in the latter half of the first century and the early second century. In contrast, "reformers" in Islam caused non-authorized versions of the Koran to be rounded up and burned. The discoveries in Herculaneum are truly wonderful and terribly exciting.
6 posted on 04/05/2002 4:03:44 PM PST by aruanan
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Thereupon one of the priests, who was of a very great age, said:

O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children, and there is not an old man among you.

Solon in return asked him what he meant.

I mean to say, he replied, that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age. And I will tell you why. There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes...."
http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html

Keep in mind, the collective Western memory has been largely destroyed by the Burning of the Library of Alexandria, along with all the book burnings from the Sack of Rome, to the Dark Ages forward. We in the West suffer from a collective cultural amnesia.
Library of Alexandria #1
Library of Alexandria #2
Library of Alexandria #3

Jurist

7 posted on 04/05/2002 4:23:12 PM PST by Jurist
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Is that why the Christians are having a hissy fit about the Dead Sea Scrolls?

Personally, I will trust text that can be dated close to the original even.

8 posted on 04/05/2002 4:29:51 PM PST by Hunble
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<> What hissy fit ar you refering to? As far as I've heard the Dead Sea Scolls contain Old Testament material which thus far has proven to be very close to our current translations. Is there something new I haven't heard about?
9 posted on 04/05/2002 4:42:48 PM PST by foolscap
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fyi
10 posted on 04/05/2002 4:44:04 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: Hunble
"Is that why the Christians are having a hissy fit about the Dead Sea Scrolls"

I haven't heard anything about this. Could you please explain?

11 posted on 04/05/2002 4:44:38 PM PST by freedom9
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To: Jurist
World Heritage Site

Isn't this one of the infamous UN projects? Money should be no problem. Of course since it is in town now, doing any work on adjacent lots to protect from flooding would require permits and buying up land, all requiring money.

Knowledge and history from the old days isn't really lost, it's just mixed in and jumbled together. Anyway, the contents of this library would be a private collection of contemporary works, and would bring this period to life. Whose ox could be gored; it's been a long time.

12 posted on 04/05/2002 4:44:56 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: freedom9
Just wait, I am sure some of our Freeper frinds will be more than happy to enlighten us.

Almost 50 years later, the full text of the Dead Sea Scrolls has not been released to the public.

Like you, I would like to hear the reasons why.

13 posted on 04/05/2002 4:49:27 PM PST by Hunble
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To: vannrox
bttt
14 posted on 04/05/2002 4:51:37 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Miss Marple;
FYI
15 posted on 04/05/2002 4:56:09 PM PST by father_elijah
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To: Hunble
I would like to hear the reasons why.

The Dead Sea Scrolls are in three bodies today. The Isreali's have a few, there is an unknown number in private collections and the Catholic Church controls the rest of the scrolls in the Scrollery in Jerusalem. All scrolls published prior to 2000 can be contained in 3-4 books with extensive writings filling innumerable additional volumes. Since the Office of the Inquisition of the Holy Roman Catholic Church (actually they changed their name about 60 years ago but I can't remember it) lost control of the scrolls in about 2000, we now have 47 additional volumes of scrolls published.

Of course, the Catholic scholars claim they were just being careful for 56 years but they have put out a lot of "spin" and "smoke" in two years for a bunch of guys that were just figuring out what it says. They probably haven't learned too much more than they already have in the Vatican Libraries but they won't let us see that either. Now that the Huntington Library in Pasadena has photographs of all of the scrolls and will let any serious scholar look at them, the truth will begin to emerge.

16 posted on 04/05/2002 5:56:49 PM PST by IncredibleHulk
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Thanks for your reply. I have a feeling we will hear some other version tonight also.

Frankly, I am 47 years old and have waited most of my adult life to read the actual text.

What are they hiding?

17 posted on 04/05/2002 6:06:08 PM PST by Hunble
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Archeologists today released transcripts of the long lost "Freerepublic" hard drives.

While scholars disagree on most of the references to a "constitution", most do agree that the recuring use of "tinfoil, flame, and Clymer" in the same sections seem to indicate a relationship between these obtuse terms.

Dr. Seamus Johannson, head of the Dept. of Cyber-archeology at Princeton also noted the cyclic nature of complaints regarding "new format" which while cryptic seem to indicate separate periods of cyber-realignment,the largest seemingly occuring prior to the Oslo war of the first half of the 21st century.

Hehehe.

18 posted on 04/05/2002 6:13:30 PM PST by tet68
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To: blam
ping
19 posted on 04/05/2002 6:16:50 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: tet68
Should I continue laughing as you intended, or should I cry?

Thanks tet68, you did not let me down.

20 posted on 04/05/2002 6:20:54 PM PST by Hunble
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