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Report: 'Lily Whites' Recruited to Carry Out OKC Bombing
NewsMax.com ^ | Sunday June 30, 2002; 12:21 a.m. EDT | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 06/29/2002 10:49:44 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow

Sunday June 30, 2002; 12:21 a.m. EDT

Report: 'Lily Whites' Recruited to Carry Out OKC Bombing

A congressional task force investigating the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing had information suggesting that Islamic plotters recruited two "lily whites" - non-Middle Easterners with no connection to prior terrorist activity - to carry out the attack ultimately perpetrated by Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, according to a report broadcast late Saturday.

Terrorism expert Yoseff Bodansky discussed the previously secret evidence obtained by Congress during an interview with Fox News Channel's Rita Cosby.

COSBY: I'm going to read some information that we obtained here at Fox News - something else you wrote that, more importantly, that the congressional task force learned: That two "lily whites" - these are people sort of considered non-Middle Easterners - had been recruited to carry out the bombing of an American federal building.

BODANSKY: "Lily whites" are people that have no - nothing to do with ethnic background, that's not true. "Lily whites" is the term used for people who have no past known encounter with security authorities anywhere in the U.S. or anywhere in the world. And therefore, there's no way they will raise an alarm bell with the security authorities once they're involved in something.

COSBY: So these are people who would sort of be out of the scope?

BODANSKY: It can be somebody from the heart of Africa, somebody from the middle of Australia or anywhere else. (End of Excerpt)

Couple Bodansky comments with a report on Judicial Watch Radio last week, where Judicial Watch co-counsel Mike Johnson detailed a very specific warning that came just hours before the OKC bombing from Washington, D.C.'s then-top terrorism expert.

"Vincent Cannistraro, who is the former Chief of Counter-Terrorism for the CIA, called Special (FBI) Agent Kevin L. Foust, and informed him that one of his best sources from Saudi Arabia intelligence specifically advised him that there was a squad of people currently in the United States, very possibly Iraqi, and I'm quoting, 'who have been tasked with carrying out terrorist acts against the United States,'" said Johnson.

"The Saudi informant, who's part of the Saudi Counter-Terrorism Service, told him that he had seen the list and that 'first on the list was the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.'"

Johnson said other targets on the Saudi informant's list included Immigration of Naturalization Service offices in Houston and what was then the FBI's counterterrorism headquarters in Los Angeles.


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To: cgbg
Bush is, at best, swimming upstream against some powerful forces:
  1. a liberal media hostile to America, freedom, capitalism and faith in God,
  2. entrenched beauracrats, long accustomed to infighting and turf wars, but lacking integrity,
  3. deeply embedded political correctness in much of middle America, especially urban, thanks to the schools and media the last half century, and
  4. no doubt some evil criminal (Clinton, anyone), terrorist and/or marxist forces that would kill him in a heart beat if he got too close to uncovering the wrong persons.

It's like defusing a complex, powerful bomb. You move slow and don't make waves except when you are pretty damn sure of yourself.

81 posted on 06/30/2002 2:05:47 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: _Jim
The contents of the car revealed a hand printed sign "NOT ABANDONED". "Please do not tow, will move by April 23. (Need battery and cable)". The handwriting is Timothy McVeigh's.

So when did he write the note?

Was it before or after he took off in a car with no tags and loaded pistol?

For a guy smart enough to pull off the bombing all by himself, it seems odd that with a loaded gun he didn't kill the cop, or at least try.

So, did he intend to be caught?

82 posted on 06/30/2002 2:29:11 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Lexington Green
Bush and Ashcroft continue the cover-up...

Well, we can always hope they are looking into it.

But they sure offed McVeigh fast.

Yes, I know he said he didn't want any more postponements.

But we had the Feds withholding evidence.

Yes, Ashcroft gave him a 30 day stay. Hardly enough time for defense to look at it, or Gov either, for that matter.

Maybe they were afraid of what he might say if they waited much longer. Maybe he was, too.

83 posted on 06/30/2002 2:50:39 PM PDT by carenot
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To: _Jim
_Jim, you seem to be a bit..........uptight, today. Do Sunday schedules conflict somehow?

Tell ya' what, we all sympathize with you (:-) and we'll keep the thought of how crushing it must be to some egos to have to 'work' on Sunday trying to cover up for a bunch of scumbag 'leaders' with more paygrade than you've got. But don't forget, if you ain't the Lead Dog on the Team, the View just never gets better. So STRIVE! Mush! ...... er....have a Nice Day! :-)

84 posted on 06/30/2002 2:55:43 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Uncle Sham
You and your government-supplied responses no longer have credibility. Go out and get a real job.

What about his gold watch and pension plan?

Long ago, when I was a kid, they had a saying about women and girls,"She ain't no better than she ought to be".

Even though _Jim is a man, it might apply here.

This IS NOT a personal attack. I am trying (hardly) to understand him!

85 posted on 06/30/2002 2:59:39 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Hildy
Perhaps they had bigger plans, more capabilities, and didn't want to blow their cover yet.

Also ask why the FBI went out of its way to cover for them.

86 posted on 06/30/2002 3:05:36 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the link Legitimizing Murderers, Cowgirl. If one wanted to get depressed about the state of our world, one could sure find enough cause.
87 posted on 06/30/2002 3:14:45 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: Itzlzha
Can you cite any evidence that McVeigh had any sympathy for the middle eastern maggots? After all, didn't he distinguish himself kicking their asses in the Gulf War? Or do you suppose he was the dupe of a false flag operation in which the sand goblins masqueraded as domestic Nazis?
88 posted on 06/30/2002 3:40:14 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: ThePythonicCow
If one wanted to get depressed about the state of our world, one could sure find enough cause.

It helps to come back to FR and Freepers after spending time researching on the net, doesn't it? I wouldn't mind a separate category for Barf Alerts. Cyberspace is crowded with enough dark matter without our making more room for hate. Maybe one long "Barf Alert" thread - Freepers could post their "barfy" links. It would probably grow to be the longest FR thread on record.

Emergency humor break help:
Worst Judgment of the Year by Adults

In July, in Doncaster, England, police put suspect Martin Kamara, 43, a black man, in a lineup for identification, but because of recent racial incidents, they couldn't find any black men willing to stand alongside him, so police hired a makeup artist to put black faces on seven white men for the lineup. A judge released Kamara because of the foolishness. (In addition to the inherent problem, the artist neglected to make up the men's hands.)

Unclear on the Concept

In May, Scripps Howard News Service profiled former lawyer James Kelley of Washington, D.C., one of a small group at his local church who are enthusiastic Episcopalians but who do not believe in God. Said Kelley, "We all love the incense, the stained glass windows, the organ music, the vestments, and all of that. It's drama. It's aesthetics. It's the ritual. That's neat stuff. I don't want to give all that up, just because I don't believe in God."

Well, Sure

Minneapolis firefighter Gerald Brown, 55, who was fired in 1995 for abuse of sick leave but who won a grievance hearing and was reinstated with 18 months' back pay, was scheduled to return to work on June 2. He called in sick.
Weird News, 1997

89 posted on 06/30/2002 4:27:27 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: _Jim
"BUT they're not and instead they spend a majority of their time fighting each other from the backs of camels.

THEY AREN'T that competent"

They aren't that competent, huh?

Tell that to the spouses of the those who died in the World Trade Center on 9/11.

Just consider me another person with no life eating from a can in the basement.

90 posted on 06/30/2002 5:48:02 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: cynwoody
Can you cite any evidence that McVeigh had any sympathy for the middle eastern maggots?

Evidence published in Media Bypass Magazine, 1998

91 posted on 06/30/2002 6:09:57 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: Nick Danger; backhoe
I remember reading the strip when I was a kid in the '60s. It ran in the New York Daily News, right? My uncle used to buy it and let us kids read the comics, which were great, although we didn't always understnad them.

That strip seems so innocent, now.

92 posted on 06/30/2002 6:13:55 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: philman_36
Kinda hard to win when you know the deck is stacked against you. Leaving the table seems the only winning proposition.

Every Gambler knows that the secret to survivin'
Is knowin' what to throw away and knowing what to keep.
'Cause ev'ry hand's a winner and ev'ry hand's a loser,
And the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep."


Take care philman

Atticus
93 posted on 06/30/2002 6:27:16 PM PDT by AtticusX
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To: AtticusX
"And the best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep."

An extremely cynical and gruesome but much-needed lol.

What is the deal tonight? Kudos to Gordon Lightfoot, Kenny Rogers, and my own, Don Henley...

"In a New York minute, everthing can change..."

Let's hope this time it's a change for the better, to "let the sunshine in,"..oh no, here we go again....

94 posted on 06/30/2002 6:38:55 PM PDT by glorygirl
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To: ThePythonicCow
late bump
95 posted on 07/01/2002 7:04:30 AM PDT by okkev68
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To: meenie
"...explain to me why the FBI covered up the Mideast connection."

The militias were a big thing at the time. The Administration saw value in villifying these militias in the minds of the American people.

96 posted on 07/01/2002 7:12:23 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: OKCSubmariner
This gal may THINK she's playing the game right and will be taken care of by the Big Guys, but she's wrong. They only take care of themselves.
98 posted on 07/01/2002 10:42:15 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: goldstategop; toenail; Uncle Bill; amom; PhiKapMom; MizSterious; Fred Mertz; honway; archy; ...
I spoke to Mike Johnston today about the info Cannistraro received about the OKC bombing from the Saudis.

Johnston says what Johnston had said on Judicial Watch radio was misreported by News Max.

Johston says he did NOT say the call came to Cannistraro hours BEFORE the bombing.

Johnston confirmed to me today that the first FBI 302 interview report with Cannistraro and FBI agent Kevin Foust about the story says that Cannistraro received the call from the Saudis in the afternoon of the bombing, which would make it after the bombing which occurred at 9:02 am.

However, it is still possible that Cannistrao could have received the call before the bombing if the FBI 302 is not accurate and a coverup started at that time. FBI 302's are notoriously unreliable because the FBI is known to falsify their 302 reports especially in the OKC bombing case. Jones book, "Other Unknown" talks about FBI 302 falsification and deliberate errors.

But even if the FBI 302 report with Cannistrao is accurate, the question remains how long did the Sauids know about the evidence linking Saddam Hussain and seven Pakistanis to the OKC bombing before they told anyone in US government?

If the Saudis called within hours after the bombing, it seems the Saudis likely must have known before the bombing.

If so why did the Saudis wait until after the bombing to call?

And how did the Saudis learn of the intelligence they called to give Cannistraro?

These are becoming important questions because some in the Saudi government (Islamic Whabbahists) has been backing ALQaeda , Hamas and other terrorists involved in 9/11 attacks?

99 posted on 07/01/2002 10:50:17 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: rdavis84
Please see reply #99 also. Thanks.
100 posted on 07/01/2002 10:51:52 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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