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Singer's remark riles Hispanics -- Greeley debates 'English' comment
Denver Post ^ | July 9, 2002 | Michael Riley

Posted on 07/09/2002 10:43:24 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan

Singer's remark riles Hispanics -- Greeley debates 'English' comment

By Michael Riley
Denver Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 09, 2002

A country western singer who told his audience at the Greeley Independence Stampede that immigrants should learn to speak English ignited an emotional debate in a community that has seen an influx of Hispanics over the past decade.

Warner Brothers recording star Chad Brock said Monday that his comments were meant to express his "pride in being American." But Hispanic leaders said they were racist and the failure of Stampede organizers to condemn them shows the refusal to embrace newcomers.

Brock stepped on stage Friday to belt out hits like "Lighting Does the Work," but he salted his performance with some sharp opinions.

In a speech between sets, Brock said he was tired of having to adapt to the widening influence of the country's newcomers. "You are coming to our country. We don't speak Russian. We don't speak Spanish. We speak English here," Brock told an audience of 7,000, according to the Greeley Tribune. While many Hispanics in the audience walked out, people who attended the event said many non-Hispanics cheered.

Brock, a former pro wrestler, said Monday that the comments came out of an honest patriotic fervor, inspired in part by a recent court decision declaring the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional.

"I'm not a racist. I wasn't directing the comments toward any particular group. I was speaking my mind as an American" during the Fourth of July holiday, Brock said.

"But I had no idea there were so many Hispanics in Greeley," he said. "I didn't mean to offend anybody."

Hispanic leaders said "offend" doesn't even begin to cover it.

"His comments were bigoted, inflammatory and hateful," said Roberto Cordova, a local college professor.

The issue goes deeper than Brock, said Jorge Amaya, director of the Northern Colorado Latino Chamber of Commerce. "The problem isn't what Brock said. The problem is that our community leaders didn't step up to condemn it."

At a news conference Monday, the Hispanic leaders demanded an apology from city officials, the event's corporate sponsors and Stampede organizers. They said this isn't the first time the Stampede has offended the city's growing Hispanic population.

Citing poor ticket sales, Stampede organizers last year canceled the fiesta section of the annual event.

Stampede marketing director Kyle Holman said organizers wanted to make the fiesta more inclusive and renamed it Family Night.

"Mr. Brock has the right of free speech just like every other American," Holman said. "But his opinion aren't necessarily the opinions of the Greeley Stampede."

But some here said they share Brock's sentiments.

According to census figures, Greeley's Hispanic population nearly doubled in the 1990s, as immigrants, many with limited English skills, took jobs in the region's meat packing plants and feedlots.

As the ethnic makeup of schools and neighborhoods shifts, some residents say they feel left out. Language has become both a divide and a flashpoint.

"If we're going to communicate, everybody needs to speak the same language," said Billie Messner, a patron at a local coffee shop.

Greeley City Manager Leonard Wiest said the city is working to accommodate newcomers.

Brock said Monday that while he's sorry if his comments offended anyone, he won't apologize.

"I had the guts to speak out, but I think a lot of people feel the same way," he said.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; englishlanguage; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; michaeldobbs; pc
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To: Doctor Stochastic
If you're gonna drag some crap up from 40 years ago to prove your point then there's no need to even try to have a discussion with you.

I don't care how people speak in their own homes but when they expect drivers tests and road signs to be changed so they can get around then I have a problem.

As for work, an employer has every right to ask that they speak in english while working and on the premises. I very much doubt that other languages would be allowed in a gov't workplace but not spanish. Show the proof of that one.

101 posted on 07/09/2002 12:46:55 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Dakmar
It's the self-appointed, hypersensitive 'leaders' and 'activists' I have a problem with, not the average Mexican immigrant.

It is always the self appointed, hypersensitive leaders and activists who get the publicity. I wonder if average immigrants are embarrassed by these hair balls?

102 posted on 07/09/2002 12:47:20 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The Conservative attempt to run off Hispanics ...

Oh, you mean like President Bush's plan to give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants?

Go over to DU where you belong.

103 posted on 07/09/2002 12:50:41 PM PDT by Schatze
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Your personal page says you're a libertarian. Does that mean you support, as the Wall St. Journal does open borders, or do you think illegals should be deported? I'm asking since most of the "newcomers" are most likely here unlawfully.
104 posted on 07/09/2002 12:51:01 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Tancredo Fan
"A country western singer who told his audience at the Greeley Independence Stampede that immigrants should learn to speak English ignited an emotional debate..."

HUH??

What in the world are we coming to??? Are we the United States of America or Los Estados Unidos del Norte America??

Has EVERYBODY lost their cojones (not English) in this country??

105 posted on 07/09/2002 12:54:57 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: Tancredo Fan
Brock, a former pro wrestler,

What do you know? A grandstander!

106 posted on 07/09/2002 12:56:54 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Anamensis
French, Russian, Lithuanian, Greek, Ebo, Swahili, Portuguese, and Tagalog

My honey's first language is Tagalog, and the vast majority of Tagalog speaking people assimilate into American culture quite well.

107 posted on 07/09/2002 12:57:10 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: *immigrant_list
Index Bump
108 posted on 07/09/2002 12:58:40 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Tell Mr Brock not to visit New Mexico. Spanish is an official language here. It has been long before his ancestors arrived.


Will you be joining Aztlan in the next 20-30 years senor? I'll be glad to forward your comments to his official website, if he has one that is.

109 posted on 07/09/2002 12:59:42 PM PDT by bok
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Look what happened to John Rocker for saying the same thing. I hope this guy tells them to stuff it.

I believe he did:

Brock said Monday that while he's sorry if his comments offended anyone, he won't apologize.

"I had the guts to speak out, but I think a lot of people feel the same way," he said.


110 posted on 07/09/2002 1:05:38 PM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: Tancredo Fan
Looks like it's time to add a new CD to my collection! Way to go, Mr. Brock! DON'T BACK DOWN!
111 posted on 07/09/2002 1:09:14 PM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: AnnaZ
Good for him, and I hope he sticks to his guns. A common language is the one thing that holds us together.
112 posted on 07/09/2002 1:15:08 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Telling people how to speak among themselves is another thing entirely. I would agree to a point with you statement, but to say that one should learn to speak English in the U.S. is not the same and saying someone should not speak Spanish also.

What language someone speaks in private is there business I fact I would encourage this around a family children so they become fluent is both languages.

However what language someone speaks in public is different if someone is fluent in both.

It can be rude to speak at length in a foreign language in front of a non speaker.

It is a way of talking “behind someone back” in front of someones face.

I know many non Hispanic that speak fluent Spanish and you would be amazed at what is said in front of you and about you when it’s assumed you don’t understand

113 posted on 07/09/2002 1:15:42 PM PDT by tophat9000
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To: glc1173@aol.com
I have the sticker. Got it at a gun show.
114 posted on 07/09/2002 1:17:52 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: tophat9000
Again, it's none of your business what other people are chatting about among themselves. You can call it rude, but why are you listening to other people's private comments anyway?
115 posted on 07/09/2002 1:18:13 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I made no comments about illegal aliens. All the Hispanics I work with are citizens whose families were here 400 years ago (it is in New Mexico.) They take comments on their language, religion, appearance, food, etc. rather personally. Unfortunately, Brock's comments are just going to drive them to vote for Richardson (an Hispanic with an English name, although a carpetbagger nonetheless) as opposed to Sánchez (an Hispanic with a Spanish name and local background.)
116 posted on 07/09/2002 1:22:08 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Tancredo Fan
And since when does speaking a different language make you a different race? I.e., what "race" did this guy ostensibly offend? I thought they were pretty much Caucasian...SSZ
117 posted on 07/09/2002 1:27:46 PM PDT by szweig
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To: Huck
Or maybe, just maybe, this guy believes we have a problem of immigrants coming here and refusing to assimilate, and voiced his concern? You know, some folks do have strong convictions about stuff...

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

118 posted on 07/09/2002 1:28:19 PM PDT by wku man
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Do you believe if the INS enforced the laws against illegal immigration as we pay them to do, we would even be discussing this? Before the massive invasion in the last 20 years from south of the border, most if not all American Hispanics were assimiliated, knew English and were part of the culture. It's because of all the illegals that have invited themselves in and are demanding we adapt to their ways there's so much friction.

Unless the INS, Congress, the President, or whoever in government takes seriously what is happening in our country, expect us to be the Yugoslavia of the Western Hemisphere in the next decade or two.

119 posted on 07/09/2002 1:32:09 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: skeeter
Someone needs to remind Mr Brock that America is a nation of immigrants and those immigrants have ALWAYS demanded their hosts immediate and total respect; the expressing hateful(tm) opinions (such as belief in a common language) will not be tolerated by said immigrants, and that our diversity is our strength.

Someone needs to remind skeeter that this statement is totally false. Get a grip skeety!

120 posted on 07/09/2002 1:34:05 PM PDT by subterfuge
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