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Partner Swapping Out Of Closet -- Swinging Accepted -- Women Driving Movement
San Frencisco Chronicle ^ | July 9, 2002 | Julian Guthrie

Posted on 07/09/2002 11:03:09 PM PDT by Dajjal

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:31 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Swinging, the practice of swapping romantic partners, has had a makeover.

Gone are the big-hair, gold-chain '70s-style swingers who gathered in suburban tract homes. Today's energetic couplings have made their way into mainstream resorts and upscale commercial venues.

"There are people who see the market potential and are opening clubs and agencies to cater to the lifestyle," said Tony Lanzaratta, a former Los Angeles police officer who is executive director of NASCA, a national organization of swingers. "The lifestyle tour and travel industry has more than tripled in the last five years."


(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adultery; catholiclist; immorality; marriage; mdm; nasca; swinger; swinging
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To: Dat
Yes, I recall those " Swinging makes a marriage great" posts. It was so charming that they would take the kids to grandma's so they could swing.

Swinging is wrong. Swinging is immoral. If you want to swing don't get married, and for Pete's sake, DON'T HAVE KIDS.
21 posted on 07/10/2002 7:40:29 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: Dajjal
I think you've all missed the real story, which is that swinging will be the next "lifestyle" orientation that needs civil rights protections. If you don't like it, you're a swingist.....or something like that.
22 posted on 07/10/2002 7:41:50 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Dajjal
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

1. I AM THE LORD THY GOD: THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME.

COMMANDS: faith, hope, love, and worship of God; reverence for holy things; prayer.

FORBIDS: idolatry; superstition; spiritism; tempting God; sacrilege; attendance at false worship.

2. THOU SHALL NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN.

COMMANDS: reverence in speaking about God and holy things; the keeping of oaths and vows.

FORBIDS: blasphemy; the irreverent use of God's name; speaking disrespectfully of holy things; false oaths and the breaking of vows.

3. KEEP THE SABBATH HOLY.

COMMANDS: going to church on Sundays and holy days of obligation.

FORBIDS: missing church through one's own fault; unnecessary servile work on Sunday and holy days of obligation.

4. HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER.

COMMANDS: love; respect; obedience on the part of children; care on the part of parents for the spiritual and temporal welfare of their children; obedience to civil and religious superiors.

FORBIDS: hatred of parents and superiors; disrespect; disobedience.

5. THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

COMMANDS: safeguarding of one's own life and bodily welfare and that of others.

FORBIDS: unjust killing; suicide; abortion; sterilization; dueling; endangering life and limb of self or others.

6. THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.

COMMANDS: chastity in word and deed.

FORBIDS: obscene speech; impure actions alone or with others.

7. THOU SHALT NOT STEAL.

COMMANDS: respect for the property of rights and others; the paying of just debts; paying just wages to employees; integrity in public office.

FORBIDS: theft; damage to the property of others; not paying just debts; not returning found or borrowed articles; giving unjust measure or weight in selling; not paying just wages; bribery; graft; cheating; fraud; accepting stolen property; not giving an honest day's work for wages received; breach of contract.

8. THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHOUR.

COMMANDS: truthfulness; respect for the good name of others; the observance of secrecy when required.

FORBIDS: lying; injury to the good name of others; slander; talebearing; rash judgment; contemptuous speech and the violation of secrecy.

9. THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHOUR'S WIFE.

COMMANDS: purity in thought.

FORBIDS: wilful impure thought and desires.

10. THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHOUR'S GOODS.

COMMANDS: respect for the rights of others.

FORBIDS: the desire to take, to keep, or damage the property of others.

23 posted on 07/10/2002 7:44:26 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; attagirl; ...
Sodom and Gomorrah Discussion Ping.

Happening in the United States.

24 posted on 07/10/2002 7:46:08 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Salvation
Hmmmmm

You'd think, in addition to this being just tacky, that the AIDS crisis and STD epidemic would have wised people up. The new circus sex culture ( a la Howard Stern and Co.) is just another one of those end-of-empire signs of decadence. Like the silicon in Pamela Anderson's chest.

25 posted on 07/10/2002 7:53:35 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Salvation
I wish I could remember in what thread I was posting all sorts of related stuff when the show aired but here is a treatment of the 48 Hours segment on "The Lifestyle" which aired a year or so ago.
26 posted on 07/10/2002 7:54:23 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Salvation
sheesh, another cop gone bad. I can't keep up with all these bad cop threads.

Seriously though, quite sad if you ask me. I think some day they will be ashamed and regret what they're doing.

27 posted on 07/10/2002 8:05:05 PM PDT by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Salvation
Discussion thread?... It's just too depressing to discuss! My fellow Americans are so preoccupied that the moral fiber of the nation/Republic is being chewed up and spit out by the criminal enterprise democrat party and their ilk in the 'other' parties, sucking the last life out of this once great nation. Sorry, too depressing to discuss this garbage.
28 posted on 07/10/2002 8:05:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Dajjal
Down here in Texas, we call it ADULTERY.

This is how it starts. Just by changing the semantics, the reframe the argument. We're not committing adultery (which is such a negative word), we're "swinging" (fun, happy word).
29 posted on 07/10/2002 8:05:22 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Right down to the silicone chicks ... it's all part of the Homosexual's being the Ideal Citizen. His promiscuity, his "right" to concoct and purchase a child, his basing of marriage on some "winged eros" coupled with economic benefit (rather than the lifetime commitment -- and sovereignty/authority deriving from obligating oneself to responsibility that is the natural Family). All there and more.

Living immersed in a gay culture as I do, I find it really startling (and kinda depressing) what suckers "red blooded males" are for stale and only marginally "hetero-ized" homo-erotica.

Same way as I can count on all the young male tourists from Flyover Country to sport their best approximations of whatever looks were fashionable a year to three years past among the gay bars. It's unsettling.

In many ways, it's akin to the way the Beats and the Free Love sorts encouraged America to get its "Spade Kicks" by emulating the Jungle Love they could find at the Cotton Club uptown (or, back to the "better late than never Flyover Country" ... Elvis and his pelvis). Not only was this a terrible dehumanization and marginalization of the black who (according to the Moynihan report) already had enough problems thanks to historical and social circumstances beyond his control that didn't need compounding with some backhanded glorification of the base, it worked like a solvent on the moral integrity of the population at large who tried to emulate their anti-heroes.

30 posted on 07/10/2002 8:05:58 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Salvation
Very nice post, but I think 6 and 9 dramatically shows the sin. I can't imagine such an unchaste marriage.
31 posted on 07/10/2002 8:07:47 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
And -- forgive me for being graphic -- but anal sex must needs be mentioned.

Regardless what passes for fun between consenting adults, I think if the Good Lord had intended the anus for the penis, he'd have supplied everyone with their own can of Crisco.

The "liberation" that is taking the French cut bikini to a thong (Naked Ape style) and pornographer's push for anal porn and the tender trap that is wooing men with lesbian sex is absolutely calculated. Diabolical back to front.

32 posted on 07/10/2002 8:09:33 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
It's a phase of decadence which the empires of the ancient world went through (BEFORE they disappeared into the ashes of history).

Anal sex, as you have called attention, is just so disgustingly repulsive (and, not to mentioned, highly dangerous from a hygiene point of view). E-coli bacteria from our intestinal tract just doesn't go with genitals. People are nuts who do this. Feces and love are definitely not made for one another.

33 posted on 07/10/2002 8:12:59 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Jhoffa_
While being such immoral behavior, it is a welcome mat for SDT's.
34 posted on 07/10/2002 8:13:10 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: CecilRhodesGhost
there is a movement to destroy the old idea of marriage.

There definitely is. Today after exercise class, I plopped on couch, turned on TV, and got engrossed in Oprah. Guests were women, mostly in their 20s, who ballyhoo being "sexually free" to do what they want, with whomever they please" as often as they "choose" and resist "labels" like bisexual or swinger.

They are proud they are the aggressors, proud that they do not give a damn about old-fashioned feelings of love, devotion, commitment. Acting like perfect sluts while resisting the label, they're apparently pervading society. Some were quite pretty, nicely dressed, don't look like Jerry Springer material, but they are.

Ironically, the only young woman who made any sense at all was daughter of 70s sexual freedom activist woman who wrote book Our Bodies Ourselves...This young woman said she had no need whatsoever to "act sexy." And she had two parents, married to each other. All of the other young women on the show made sex, and lots of it, priority in their lives. Not one mentioned hope of getting married, raising a family. They are only interested in tomorrow's orgasm(s). And naturally, they all said their mothers were hopeless out of step with the times.

Horrible people, but I'm glad I happened to catch the show. Oprah looked as appalled as I felt, BTW.

35 posted on 07/10/2002 8:13:18 PM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
LOL, I was waiting to see if this were founded by the Van Dams
36 posted on 07/10/2002 8:14:51 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: Dajjal
"In 25 states, you can run for office and be openly gay, but if you come out and say you're married and that you have sex with other couples, you won't get elected," Gantz said.

My goodness, what a shocking state of affairs (so to speak).

Who ever would have thought that Americans could be so intolerant?

37 posted on 07/10/2002 8:18:05 PM PDT by CubicleGuy
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To: Nam Vet
Way to go Nam Vet! "Loving bride...sweet wife"...these blow away the falsehood that is swinging.
38 posted on 07/10/2002 8:18:13 PM PDT by avenir
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
There's really very little that's new under the sun.

It's generally the folks that take "Progress" as a given that forget just that.

Keuhnnelt-Leddihn put it well ... sure, things evolve but successful evolution involves accretion and synthesis. I think human beings (although not their essential nature) evolve quite a bit and it is their genuine, self-determined Progress that most distinguishes us from mere animals ... (if not also the Angels ... sigh ... we do have a bad habit of spinning out and cashing it all in from time to time)

39 posted on 07/10/2002 8:18:21 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
Erik von K-L. Great observer of the civilizational travesty of modernity.
40 posted on 07/10/2002 8:20:47 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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