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London's Evening Standard -- "Iraqis Linked to Oklahoma Atrocity"
The Evening Standard ^ | 10/21/02 | James Langton

Posted on 10/21/2002 3:13:49 AM PDT by glorygirl

The FBI is under pressure from the highest political levels in Washington to investigate suspected links between Iraq and the Oklahoma bombing.

Senior aides to US Attorney-General John Ashcroft have been given compelling evidence that former Iraqi soldiers were directly involved in the 1995 bombing that killed 185 people.

The methodically assembled dossier from Jayna Davis, a former investigative TV reporter, could destroy the official version that white supremacists Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols were solely responsible for what, at the time, was the worst act of terrorism on American soil.

Instead, there are serious concerns that a group of Arab men with links to Iraqi intelligence, Palestinian extremists and possibly al Qaeda, used McVeigh and Nichols as front men to blow up the Alfred P Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

Davis, who was one of the first reporters on the scene after the blast, has spent seven years gathering evidence of a wider conspiracy. But it is only as America prepares to wage war on Iraq and Saddam Hussein that her conclusions are being taken seriously at the highest level. Finally, she says, the authorities are examining the idea "that the Oklahoma bombing might not simply be the work of two angry white men".

After hearing her evidence, several senior members of Congress have called for a new probe.

What triggered Davis's investigation was a report immediately after the Oklahoma explosion of Middle-Eastern looking men fleeing in a brown Chevrolet truck only minutes earlier. The FBI launched an international hunt for the men but later cancelled the search.

Within days McVeigh and Nichols were arrested, and the case seemed to be one of home-grown terrorists, motivated by a hatred for authority. But the case has always had loose ends. In particular, several witnesses in Oklahoma City that April morning saw a third conspirator with McVeigh. The elusive dark-haired suspect became known as "John Doe 2".

Terry Nichols, now serving life for conspiracy in the bombing and involuntary manslaughter, was the original "John Doe 1" but, with his arrest, the FBI claimed that the case had been wrapped up. They eventually concluded that "John Doe 2" was Nichols all along.

Davis thought otherwise. Early on, she found that a brown Chevrolet truck almost identical to that once hunted by the FBI had been seen parked outside the offices of a local property management company several days before the bombing.

The owner was a Palestinian with a criminal record and suspected ties to the Palestine Liberation Organisation. Later she found that the man had hired a number of former Iraqi soldiers.

He had recruited them to carry out maintenance on his rental properties, but several were later discovered to be missing from work on the day of the bombing. Eyewitnesses have told Davis that they saw several of them celebrating later that day.

But what increasingly drew her attention was another Iraqi living in Oklahoma City, a restaurant worker called Hussain Hashem Al Hussaini, whose photograph was almost a perfect match to the official sketch of "John Doe 2".

Al Hussaini has a tattoo on his upper left arm, indicating he was once a member of Saddam's elite Republican Guard.

Since then, Davis has gathered hundreds of court records and the sworn testimony of two dozen witnesses. Several claimed to have seen a man fitting Al Hussaini's description drinking with McVeigh in a motel bar four days before the bombing.

Others positively identified former Iraqi soldiers in the company of McVeigh and Nichols. Two swore that they had seen Al Hussaini only a block from the Murrah building in the hours before the bombing. With the case against McVeigh and Nichols seemingly watertight, the FBI has until now consistently refused to reopen it. McVeigh went to his death in the execution chamber two years ago, insisting he alone was responsible.

Davis thinks he may have done so out of loyalty to his family, not wishing to go down in history as a traitor to his country.

But she has evidence that up to 12,000 Iraqis were allowed into America after the Gulf war. Some of these, she suspects, are using their status as refugees for cover. "They are here," she said. "And they are highly trained and motivated."

The renewed interest in Washington is clearly linked to America's case against Saddam as broker of world terror.

And there is more. Al Hussaini, who entered the US from a Saudi refugee camp, worked after the Oklahoma bomb as a cook at Boston's Logan Airport - from where the two hijacked aircraft that hit the World Trade Center took off.

There is another confirmed incident that suggests something more sinister. Two of the 11 September conspirators held a crucial meeting at a motel in Oklahoma City in August 2001. The motel's owner has since identified them as ringleader Mohammed Atta and Zacarias Moussaoui, the so-called 20th hijacker, who has known links with shoebomber Richard Reid.

The motel is unremarkable - except for one thing. It is where a number of Davis's witnesses are sure they saw McVeigh drinking and perhaps plotting with his Iraqi friends


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 911; alhussaini; atta; davis; fredthompson; hussaini; hussein; iraq; mcveigh; moussaoui; nichols; okc; okcbombing; plo
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Wonder if it will happen here?
1 posted on 10/21/2002 3:13:50 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: *OKCbombing; Alamo-Girl; Gary Aldrich; amom; archy; aristeides; anymouse; AtticusX; backhoe; ...
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2 posted on 10/21/2002 3:15:52 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
Cross-link:

-The OKC Bombing Roundup--

3 posted on 10/21/2002 3:26:59 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: glorygirl
Thanks for the ping.
4 posted on 10/21/2002 3:30:32 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: glorygirl
If it's hitting the foriegn papers too, maybe Bush does plan to open it up. This is encouraging, IMO.
5 posted on 10/21/2002 3:36:11 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: glorygirl
Just what kind of involvement existed between the U.S. Govt. and the bombers of Oklahomas Murrah building?
Everyone is aware of the be on the lookout order directly after the bombing. Everyone is aware of the guy at the truck rental place that was with McVeigh. Everyone has heard of munitions stored at the Murrah building by the feds in violations of existing laws.Everyone has heard of the presence of fed bomb squads roaming around Ok city the morning of the bombing. Everyone knows that Clinton was toast if this hadn't happened.
Do you trust the U.S. Govt? How about the F.B.I.,C.I.A.,B.A.T.F.,I.R.S.?
I haven't trusted the govt since L.B.J. swore he would get
the U.S. involvement in VietNam ended. Then he put another 400,000 American troops over there and for what? The oil that used to be in the gulf of Tonkin?
I an tired of the U.S. Govt. and its employees thinking they know what is best for stupid little old me. Try telling the truth and then maybe we the people would support our govt just a little more.
As it is I don't trust my govt even a little for I know they lie at nearly every step.

6 posted on 10/21/2002 3:41:58 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: Joe Boucher
The US government is made up of citizens just like you and me. I trust it no more, but also no less, than my fellow citizens. What's more, the US government is divided into many factions and divisions justs as are we citizens. Some factions are more trustworthy than others, and like religious groups and rotary clubs and business associations in the civilian world, the integrity of each division and department changes over time depending on how responsibly they are managed. Thus, the FBI can be corrupt if led by corrupt people or if those who lead it do not have the power to fire those under them for mismanagement or fraud. Much of the corruption seen in government is because the federal union protects corrupt employees from being dismissed. Instead, it is easier to get rid of them by promoting or transferring them into someone elses' office.

It is wrong to think of 'the government' as being uniformly corrupt and it is wrong to think of it as being consistently corrupt. The odds that everyone in government is corrupt is about the same as the odds that everyone in your neighborhood or at your work is corrupt.

The reason 'the government' seems so corrupt is because you never see the good and honorable peope in it, nor the things they do, making the news. When some guy in the Army cuts the budget on a program because he does an end-run around the designers of a product and fixes a problem without them, he gets a bit of paper on his desk commending him for saving a few million dollars, but it doesn't make the news because it's his job. When some Naval officer refuses to be pressured into certifying untrained or poorly trained crewmen because in his view, they aren't able to do the job, it doesn't make the news that instead those crewmen ended up getting proper training because of his obstinance- it's his job. When some FBI agent cracks a routine case or refuses to be bribed it doesn't make the news because this is their everyday job. When some patent examiner gives some application pointers to an inventor that helps him in his legal standing when he goes to market his product, it doesn't make the news. It isn't news when things go right... it's only news when things go wrong.

Look at your fellow workers and if you see them stealing from your employer, then you can expect about the same level of corruption from government, too. And if you say nothing when you see it happen, you can expect a government employee to do the same thing. If you see people at your work doing an honorable job or going beyond the expectations of their employer, then you can expect the same level of integrity in government too. And if you do your best work for your employer, or if you yourself are a good manager and employer, you can expect a government worker like yourself, or a government manager or public official, will do the same outstanding work, too. No more and no less.

7 posted on 10/21/2002 4:09:10 AM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa
Look at your fellow workers and if you see them stealing from your employer, then you can expect about the same level of corruption from government, too.

Your comments are interesting and logical, but, as a heroine of mine would say..."check your premises".

The difference between "your fellow workers" and those in government is that government has a monopoloy on the legal use of force.

That changes everyhting.

8 posted on 10/21/2002 4:27:39 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: glorygirl
Thanks for posting.

Senior aides to US Attorney-General John Ashcroft

As Ashcroft has been consistent in ignoring government corruption.....campaign finance task force, Boston FBI office, lynx fur and BIA backdating crimes, etc, I think we can expect nothing good from him in this matter.

9 posted on 10/21/2002 4:29:55 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: glorygirl; backhoe
Thanks for the post, thanks for the link.
10 posted on 10/21/2002 4:31:47 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: piasa
Yeah yeah, I am aware that the govt is made up of everyday citizens. I am also aware that the U.S. govt or should I say
its representatives often lie. For their own angle or whatever they lie. The Creep that led the F.B.I. allowed the release to China our nuclear secrets. The F.B.I. failed to reign in the obvious corruption within the clintoon regeim. The F.B.I. has covered up so very many illegalities including giving Hitlery thousands of dossiers about everyone that may someday become a challenger.
The shooting down of the Jet in N.Y. is nothing but a coverup. Who are you going to believe your own lying eyes or the F.B.I? How many witnesses came forward to tell of seeing a missile? How many folks saw McVeigh with arabic looking people in the days and months before the Murrah bombing. What? It didn't fit the scenario the feds had made up?
Oh yeah and what about the F.B.I. allowing the frame up of a guy for murder even though they knew the guy didn't do it. To protect their plant they leave a guy in jail for years?
What about the lies and no subsequent punishment by the murderers at Ruby Ridge and Waco?
If a govt. official says it is a clear sunny day I say check it out for yourself because it very likely is a lie if stated by a govt. type.
The guy Halstrom stated once early in the investigation of the airline bombing that if the truth came out it would blow the hell out of the govt. story.
I can go on and on about this govt. It is not the govt of the United States I love it is the people of the United States and the country itself I love. And dont give me this crap about the govt being the people.
For instance I went to a local airport and took a friend for a ride in a small plane. Before the ride we walked around the airport for about 2 hours and asked 11 individuals who were working on their planes what they thought aobut the F.A.A.? Responses ranged from incompetant boobs to outright criminal. OF the 11 I asked the question all 11 had nothing but bad to say about the gestappo or F.A.A.
11 posted on 10/21/2002 4:32:37 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: glorygirl
Wonder how this all would have panned out if this happened when Reagan, Bush 41 or Bush 43 was in office. I can't for the life of me imagine they would've conducted the mass coverup Clinton and his cronies did.
12 posted on 10/21/2002 4:58:16 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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If you don't mind, maybe you can let us know how this story is playing over there, if at all. Also, maybe you can characterize this publication a bit for us.

They got a few of the facts wrong.

Thanks.

13 posted on 10/21/2002 5:08:51 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
Jayna just added article to her site jaynadavis.com
14 posted on 10/21/2002 9:54:26 AM PDT by sjersey
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To: glorygirl
Hmmm. Should be interesting to track Clinton and his whereabouts/public statements if this story ever breaks. Reno too.
15 posted on 10/21/2002 10:50:26 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: glorygirl
Bump..!
16 posted on 10/21/2002 11:25:16 AM PDT by Osage Orange
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Well isn't this just rich! US Attorney-General John Ashcroft could not wait....was peeing his pants...to have McVeigh killed. And now he wants to connect Iraq to OKC. But the one guy who could have told the whole story....is dead! Thanks a lot Ashcroft.
17 posted on 10/21/2002 12:08:56 PM PDT by hove
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To: glorygirl
But she has evidence that up to 12,000 Iraqis were allowed into America after the Gulf war.

At the time I thought the decision by Bush I to resettle thousands of enemy soldiers in the US immediately following the war was the very pinnacle of irresponsibility.

SHEER madness.

18 posted on 10/21/2002 12:34:59 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: hove
Yep, I feel the same way. I could never understand what the awful rush was to execute him. Rest assured, he should not and would not have escaped his date with the needle but I would've made certain he had no tales left to tell.
19 posted on 10/21/2002 12:49:35 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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bttt
20 posted on 10/21/2002 3:40:53 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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