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To: blam
It doesn't fit at all. It'll therefore be buried. I've followed the bits and pieces of ancient farming techniques in South America since the first, tantalizing evidence began coming to light around 20 years ago. What happens is the scientific community winds up burying it, because it's outside of the generally accepted theories of the settling of this hemisphere. Science has become so institutionalized that field archeologists have an extrememly hard time getting the scientific establishment to give ANY credence to their ideas. One excuse for this inability to open up to new concepts is the cost of changinf textbooks...no kiddin'.

A case in point is the dinosaurs to birds theory, which took about 25 years to catch on...and though now it's widly accepted there's still a vocal camp that insists it can't possibly be true and Archaeopteryx is a hoax.

Dating civilization in this hemisphere is even worse. We have to get past the EUrocentric notion first of all that nobody set foot in land in this hemisphere more than 10,000 years ago, and they only did THAT by crossing the land bridge in the Bering Straights. Even our plant life is not allowed to be our own, according to conventional wisdom. If you look through the various plant species of North America, it appears that 9 out of 10 are native to EUrope - logic dictates there could have been no functional ecosystem then. So what did the people here live on? Rocks and dirt?? The whole thing is irrational.

This resistance to new evidence and new discoveries is really irritating. It's one of my pet peeves, because the whole debate is just too deeply tied in with politics, and science and politics do NOT mix.

12 posted on 06/22/2003 10:18:59 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: cake_crumb
Ancient man probably made it to the Americas by boat -- skirting the coast in search of seals and seafood -- not a trans-oceanic voyage. Just five miles a years would get people to Alaska and points south in practically no time. Such a feat would have been nothing to that the aboriginies, who made it to Australia by boat 60,000 years ago, when the narrowest gap betwen islands would have been 60 miles.
13 posted on 06/22/2003 10:24:40 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: cake_crumb
"This resistance to new evidence and new discoveries is really irritating. It's one of my pet peeves, because the whole debate is just too deeply tied in with politics, and science and politics do NOT mix."

Thanks, you have just summed up one of my biggest irritations too. I constantly challenge the old 'camp.' Leaky declared decades ago that the Calico Site in California is 200,000 years old. (human artifacts)

16 posted on 06/22/2003 10:34:09 AM PDT by blam
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