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If Bush wants to win the black vote he needs to just speak as a true conservative. Bush should have stuck to his guns in the Leave No Child Behind Act and fought for vouchers, something blacks would have been greatful for, but instead he sold out to kennedy in exchange for nothing. Bush needs to talk about the importance of moral and family values. Bush needs to tell them he wants to close the borders to save jobs for them and encourage economic growth in their community through lifting harsh government restrictions. I smell a weak democratic coalition. It has to be weak I mean what do Black Americans who are deeply religious have in common with a mostly rich liberal all white homosexual atheist democratic hierarchy. This is a weakness that needs to be exposed and exploited.
1 posted on 08/04/2003 11:05:23 AM PDT by M 91 u2 K
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When did he ever specifically make a vow to Black voters?
2 posted on 08/04/2003 11:06:29 AM PDT by rintense
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The GOP has failed time and again to gain any ground in the black vote, like it or not, the Clinton era made the black vote even more anti GOP. What the GOP will target in 2004 is the white female vote and shoot for 40% of the Hispanic vote, anything else is just icing.
3 posted on 08/04/2003 11:08:56 AM PDT by JNB
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Jesse Jackson delivers more than 90% of the black vote to the wrong party, and does a great disservice to the country.
4 posted on 08/04/2003 11:09:03 AM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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I smell a weak democratic coalition. It has to be weak I mean what do Black Americans who are deeply religious have in common with a mostly rich liberal all white homosexual atheist democratic hierarchy. This is a weakness that needs to be exposed and exploited.

Very sharp political thinking. This is exactly how to win the Black vote, although it will take generations. I think the same kind of principled outspokenness--not amnesties--will win Hispanic votes too, and more quickly.

5 posted on 08/04/2003 11:09:17 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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Were Bush to announce that this country will no longer allow Americans to be terrorized and murdered by thugs, he could count on ministers, community leaders and the communities themselves to come behind him.

A handful.

The rest would be screaming about racial profiling. Then the NY Times would explain to us all how Bush’s anti-gang tactics were no better than South Africa’s apartheid enforcement squads.

7 posted on 08/04/2003 11:14:42 AM PDT by dead (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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Bush has sold out or turned his back on so many Conservative issues that it doesn't surprise me he would do the same to Black Voters.

Veterans Issues
Gun Rights
Money to Africa
Prescription Drug Bennies

There are more but my brain is working so slow this morning I can't remember the others.
8 posted on 08/04/2003 11:15:40 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (If you continue to do what you've always done, you will continue to get what you've always got.)
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GOP breaks its vows to black voters (Bush might lose the crucial black vote)

Well, as long as it's only the one vote...

9 posted on 08/04/2003 11:16:41 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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This title is misleading, it assumes that GWB even had a chance of winning the Black vote.

If he wants to win the Black vote, he doesn't need to do anything for them, all he has to do is switch parties.

If he was a Dim and a member of the KKK, he would get 90% of the Black vote.
10 posted on 08/04/2003 11:17:48 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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Bush might lose the crucial black vote

There is no black vote for Bush. I think he received 9% of the black vote. Democrats got 91%. They are completely in the democrats pockets.

11 posted on 08/04/2003 11:19:50 AM PDT by Tiger_eye
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Were Bush to announce that this country will no longer allow Americans to be terrorized and murdered by thugs

And the vast majority of that is black-on-black violence. Exactly WHAT can the president do about that?

14 posted on 08/04/2003 11:25:10 AM PDT by dirtboy (Who's that big cat I saw roaming around here again? I thought he went extinct...)
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Yep, many blacks are deeply religious..........ane sleep around to show it.

lol
18 posted on 08/04/2003 11:29:15 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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BTW, just because he didn't get vouchers the first go doesn't mean he won't push it again.
19 posted on 08/04/2003 11:29:57 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.collegemedianews.com *some interesting radio news reports here; check it out*)
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This article does not make any sense....Does not Bush have Condi Rice and Colin Powell in the cabinet. The limousine liberals under slick willie never had any blacks in the cabinet. In fact the Demonrats always treat their loyal black voters like second class citizens they are never in any power in the jackass party.......I don't know if the blacks will ever wake up to the fact the Demonrats have kept them in perpetual slavery due to them always giving them a handout and not a helping hand up in society...


20 posted on 08/04/2003 11:30:15 AM PDT by democrats_nightmare
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I am so freaking tired of hearing about the black vote and all that Bush need to do to gain those votes. Those who speak on behalf of blacks still have the mentality that we need to be lead about with some type of leash or something.

To use Armstrong Williams, he is such a militant brotha, but his zeal is misdirected (I believe). There's only so much Bush can do. What is Armstrong and other men doing to engage the black community to show the opportunities that are out there? Not just during an election cycle but every day of the week?

If there is a failure of courting the black vote, it's our responsibility, even in the face of being called names to return to the black community and show why we believe as we do in the Republican Party.

21 posted on 08/04/2003 11:31:23 AM PDT by swheats
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"I mean what do Black Americans who are deeply religious have in common with a mostly rich liberal all white homosexual atheist democratic hierarchy. This is a weakness that needs to be exposed and exploited"

That is perplexing. Something else I've never heard discussed, in relation to the black community. Abortion. googling netted this, which I must say, mirrors my own misconception about black pregnacies:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2003/002/11.21.html

"....Black abortion epidemic
"The perception is that we as black people keep our children," Simpson says. The reality, she says, is that 512 of every 1,000 African American pregnancies end in abortion.

African American women constitute 13 percent of the female population in the United States. However, they have 36 percent of the abortions, according to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, Planned Parenthood's research arm. In Pennsylvania, the figures are even more disproportionate. Ten percent of the female population is black, but they have 45 percent of all abortions in Pennsylvania..."

29 posted on 08/04/2003 11:42:16 AM PDT by YaYa123
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The true measure of success for the Republicans is the solidification of their voting base and that is pro-life, pro-gun, anti-taxes, anti quotas, anti socialism, Pro-Religion.....When this force is hardened like steel and strongly motivated to vote is when the Republicans are very successful....And it does not matter what you skin color is as opposed to the racial bating of the Democrats.
30 posted on 08/04/2003 11:45:28 AM PDT by democrats_nightmare
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This article is so much BS. Blacks own the Democrat party, why would they vote GOP? They are the sharpest and meanest critics of the president and wouldn't vote for the president under any circumstances. Those blacks that are already in the Republican party are there for philosophical reasons, and are not being bribed like those in the Democrat party.
32 posted on 08/04/2003 11:57:12 AM PDT by RJayneJ (To see pictures of Jayne's quilt: http://bulldogbulletin.lhhosting.com/page50.htm)
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Please provide a link to the article since your link does not work. When I went to the paper you got the article from, this is what I was told:

"Sorry, your search returned no matches for GOP Breaks Its Vows to Black voters."

Not to mention this paper seems like a tabloid!

34 posted on 08/04/2003 12:01:52 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Bush Cheney '04 - VICTORY IN '04 -- $4 for '04 - www.GeorgeWBush.com/donate/)
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I am so sick of hearing what the GOP needs to do to "get" the "Black vote." And how the "Black vote" will be for the Democrats if something is or isn't done that aids only them. Are they really interested in the entire country benifiting along with themselves or just themselves. If it is really that selfish, why are we really worried about it? The GOP has done without the "Black vote" for quite some time and even if they do everything on the ever-expanding list, they will still vote Dem. The GOP needs to do things that preserve the entire nation (That includes the so called "Black Voters") regardless of what the press thinks is important. The people who actually vote ore people who want to do what is best for the counrty at least for the most part. Bush needs to do what is best for the entire counrty and not just one group or another. If the so called "Black Leaders" would take an unbiased look at history and the policies of our current President, they could see that the "Black Vote" is misplaced. However, their greed for power and ease of manipulation leave the "Black People" just where they are and no further.
Bush cannot lose something he doesn't have. Bush should stick to the no child left behind for the sake of American children not just to benefit one group or another. We need to rebuild our educational system from the ground up and he doesn't have enought support top do that... yet.

What is it going to take to get "Black Voters" to see themselves as American Voters?
37 posted on 08/04/2003 12:07:14 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (If everything you experienced, believed, lived was a lie, would you want to know the truth?)
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Well to quote the old song lyric, "Nothin from nothin is nothin!"
40 posted on 08/04/2003 12:10:52 PM PDT by NavyCaptain
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