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California Is Seen in Rearview Mirror
LA TImes ^ | 8/06/03 | By Susannah Rosenblatt

Posted on 08/06/2003 5:11:58 AM PDT by randita

California Is Seen in Rearview Mirror

For the first time, the Census Bureau finds that more people have moved to other states from here than the other way around.

By Susannah Rosenblatt

Times Staff Writer

August 6, 2003

WASHINGTON — Although the state's population continues to grow because of immigration, more people left California in the last half of the 1990s than moved in from other states, according to a U.S. Census Bureau report released today.

More than 1.4 million people in the U.S. migrated to California from 1995 to 2000, while 2.2 million left — the highest migration numbers in the country. That exodus is "unprecedented," said Hans P. Johnson, a demographer with the Public Policy Institute of California, an independent San Francisco research organization.

It was the first time since 1940, when the government started keeping statistics on domestic migration, that the state had lost more residents to other states than it gained, the Census Bureau said, although the overall population increased from 32.7 million in 1998 to an estimated 35.1 million in 2002.

In the mid-1990s, demographers had anticipated that the exodus of Californians in the early 1990s — due in large part to recession, riots and natural disasters — would slow, or even halt. But that was not the case, according to these new statistics, the most definitive available.

The largest numbers of people who left California moved to Nevada, Arizona and Texas — about 200,000 to each state. Nevada and Arizona are the two fastest-growing states in the nation, the report said, followed by Georgia, North Carolina and Florida. Large numbers of people also left California for Washington and Oregon.

Copyright 2003 Los Angeles Times

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: census; exodus; population
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Any Freepers among the 2.2 million who have left?
1 posted on 08/06/2003 5:11:58 AM PDT by randita
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I don't know about California, but there's an article in one of the local papers here in Upstate NY this AM where some professor says that Upstate has to attract more immigrants to survive.

Uh, how about attracting jobs by lowering taxes?
2 posted on 08/06/2003 5:20:11 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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Any Freepers among the 2.2 million who have left?

I left 35 years ago because at it's core, California wasn't the rural place my heart yearned for.

I settled in Maine and have been happy with the ruralness of the place but have been dissappointed with all of the people here who enjoy patting themselves on the back for solving other people's problems.

3 posted on 08/06/2003 5:24:10 AM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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I wonder what the socio-economic standing of arrivals versus departures is?
4 posted on 08/06/2003 5:28:57 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (I get subtlety lessons from martin_fierro)
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To: randita
Wow and to hear liberals tell it California is a wonderful progressive state, too bad only hard core socialist will be left in 5 years?
5 posted on 08/06/2003 5:31:28 AM PDT by Trueblackman (Check out http://www.quixtar.com)
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Hmmm, more people left, and the population increases by 3mil. But, it's the resession, riots and natural disasters as the reasons. Yeah, right.
6 posted on 08/06/2003 5:42:01 AM PDT by WSGilcrest (R.........9th generation Californiano)
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Any Freepers among the 2.2 million who have left?

Yes, returned home to Washington State in 1996 after living in CA for about 25 years ... wouldn't go back -- it's a mess and getting messier.

7 posted on 08/06/2003 5:42:36 AM PDT by Phaedrus
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That is something i never quite understood about Maine, i would have thought it would have been more conservative than it is. Any chance of that state swinging to Bush's Corner in 04?
8 posted on 08/06/2003 5:57:00 AM PDT by DM1
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Well, I left over 20 years ago. Like Victor Davis Hanson, I'm a 5th generation California: Gold Rush roots, wine industry, San Francisco from the 1880's, grew up in Sonoma country. Grad school in the University of California.

The state just isn't what it used to be. Overrun with illegal aliens, yuppie immigrants from other states who were intent on preserving it to the economic detriment of the people who have actually lived there and built the state, liberal democrats out to pander to every incompetent constituency immaginable, schools that have fallen apart, smog, pollution, Southern California stealing our water, Hollyweird getting weirder, San Diego turning from a Navy town into 'lotus land'. Ugh.

9 posted on 08/06/2003 5:57:00 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: randita
I left in 1996.
10 posted on 08/06/2003 5:58:37 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: DM1
That is something i never quite understood about Maine, i would have thought it would have been more conservative than it is. Any chance of that state swinging to Bush's Corner in 04?

Maine is the state where the judge leaked, through a DemoHack (Connelly?) George Bush's DUI offense three days before the election.

There is a terrible Democrat pandemic there.

In any state that has large welfare rolls, you will find these infestations. (My Free Stuff, - screw America.)

11 posted on 08/06/2003 6:19:23 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Contents may have settled during shipping, but this tagline contains the stated product weight.)
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I wonder what the socio-economic standing of arrivals versus departures is?

A $35 billion state budget deficit for just one year should indicate a lot about that. Or you could go watch who is getting off the Chihuahense buses arriving several times a day.

12 posted on 08/06/2003 6:19:24 AM PDT by FITZ
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In any state that has large welfare rolls, you will find these infestations. (My Free Stuff, - screw America.)

If California cuts back on welfare and becomes less generous than some other states, then the indigents will be pouring out of California and of course Mexico to those states. They won't go back home.

13 posted on 08/06/2003 6:21:40 AM PDT by FITZ
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"Maine is the state where the judge leaked, through a DemoHack (Connelly?) George Bush's DUI offense three days before the election."
Thats right! i completely forgot about that. well i guess that is one more state to the DemonRats Electoral column
14 posted on 08/06/2003 6:31:43 AM PDT by DM1
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To: CatoRenasci
Overrun with illegal aliens, yuppie immigrants from other states who were intent on preserving it to the economic detriment of the people who have actually lived there and built the state

BINGO!

15 posted on 08/06/2003 6:42:18 AM PDT by lewislynn
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To: randita
I left in 97, moved to Wisconsin. Couldn't be happier. Jobs better, schools are better, people aren't as nuts, cost of living lower. I have a big house on a big lot it's like living in the country. I understand Sacramento and the Central valley are turning into one huge crowded smoggy gridlocked Tiajuana.
16 posted on 08/06/2003 6:50:55 AM PDT by Kozak (" No mans life liberty or property is safe when the legislature is in session." Mark Twain)
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To: randita
MEXIFORNIA
17 posted on 08/06/2003 6:53:28 AM PDT by jetson
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Any Freepers among the 2.2 million who have left?

Just a few. I left in 1983.

18 posted on 08/06/2003 7:25:26 AM PDT by Prof Engineer (I won't FReep at work, I won't FReep at work, I won't FReep at work, I won't FReep at work)
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Any Freepers among the 2.2 million who have left?

Well, this FReeper moved out to the flyover portion of the state a year ago (in California, flyover is pretty much anything 40 miles from the coast)....Riverside County is heavily Republican.

If we move on again, though, it will likely be to another state in the southwest.

19 posted on 08/06/2003 7:31:38 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Bumperootus!)
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To: randita
   

TAKE THE GOP STRAW POLL

 

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20 posted on 08/06/2003 7:38:57 AM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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