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When architects did up Gold's Gym and find stacks of Our magazine, will they be able to provide the proper links to the modern California Republican Party - and its fall into decadance?
1 posted on 08/29/2003 3:54:33 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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Billigula

2 posted on 08/29/2003 3:57:45 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Bringing you quality, non-unnecessarily-excerpted threads since 2002)
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To me this story is just more evidence that scholarly types have difficulty believing true evil exists.

I don't think people living nowadays can concieve of the barbarity of some ancient "civilizations".
3 posted on 08/29/2003 4:03:38 PM PDT by I still care
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Suspicious of the very unanimity of the ancient sources, modern scholars have suggested they could have been politically biased.

Gee, so if the ancient sources had all disagreed, then modern scholars would feel better? Man, postmodernism has really rotted the brains of historians.

4 posted on 08/29/2003 4:06:41 PM PDT by LenS
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When I buried our cat in the back yard I threw some long grass on top just so I wouldn't be shoveling dirt on top of him. I thought thought that an archaeologist digging there thousands of years from now will speculate that grass had something to do with our death rites.
5 posted on 08/29/2003 4:06:46 PM PDT by lelio
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Suetonius rocks. I highly recommend "The Twelve Caesars". As ancient historians go, he was surprisingly balanced, giving the good points and the bad points about Julius Caesar and the Emperors. And he's much more entertaining to read than Tacitus.
6 posted on 08/29/2003 4:16:39 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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But did he really say "I did not have sex with that Vestal!"?

After the Clinton years, the reign of Caligula doesn't seem so outrageous.
8 posted on 08/29/2003 4:23:17 PM PDT by Spok
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He really was an S.O.B. When he died he was just on the brink of destroying the Judeans for refusing to place a statue of him in the temple. In fact, if you want to read a heartwarming story, see Josephus for his account of the general Petronius, whom Caligula charged with setting up his image in the temple. The Jews refused to do it, and Petronius couldn't convince them otherwise. Finally he said words to the effect that he would place his own life in jeopardy by trying to stall Caligula, for it was better that he should die than so great a multitude as the Jews should perish. When word of this reached Caligula he sent a message back by ship ordering Petronius to commit suicide. Shortly after the message was sent, Caligula was assasinated, and the ship bearing the news of his death reached Petronius before the order to kill himself.
13 posted on 08/29/2003 4:40:28 PM PDT by Agnes Heep
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"Writing about 70 years after Caligula's assassination, Suetonius recorded that the emperor
"built out a part of the palace as far as the Forum, and making the temple of Castor and Pollux
its vestibule, he often took his place between the divine brethren, and exhibited himself there
to be worshipped."

This type of behavior is still occurs today. It's nothing new. Consider both the Kims in
North Korea, Saddam in Iraq, Fidel in Cuba, Mao in China, Stalin in Russia, Hitler in
Germany; all men who want/wanted to be"godlike" in their respective countries.
The Mullahs in Iran are doing the same thing. The DemonRATs have tried it in this
country with with their absurd memorializing of JFK. African dictators are still at it too --
Kahddafi in Libya and that idiot racist anti-white dictator in Zimbabwe come to mind.

16 posted on 08/29/2003 4:53:29 PM PDT by StormEye
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I frea that we are going the way of the acient romans. Their civiliation rotted from the inside out& then were conqured by the vandalls. they had their "games" & so do we. At the end they believed that anything went [sex,drugs & rock&roll ect...]
Well, foks there is a "Herato" at the gates. In fact there are a bunch of them there. And GOD help those who would cross that bridge.

SEMPER FI!!
17 posted on 08/29/2003 5:11:51 PM PDT by Knightsofswing (sic semper tranyis [death to tryants!!])
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There are those who crediby argue that Calligula, and even the Romans generally, suffered from lead poisoning. Thus, their saturnian (God of lead) behavior like devouring your offspring depicted by Goya:
19 posted on 08/29/2003 5:31:49 PM PDT by frithguild (Better living through technology)
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They have argued, for example, that Caligula's renowned plan to make his horse a consul (senator) was really a joke that his subjects failed to comprehend.

Obviously Clinton didn't realize it was supposed to be a joke.

27 posted on 08/29/2003 6:23:35 PM PDT by owl
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I guess historians of future centuries will find a lot about Stalin, Hitler, and Mao hard to believe.
29 posted on 08/29/2003 7:06:20 PM PDT by aristeides
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British and American archaeologists digging in the Roman Forum said yesterday they had uncovered evidence to suggest that the emperor Caligula really was a self-deifying megalomaniac, and not the misunderstood, if eccentric, ruler that modern scholars have striven to create.

Pingus.
32 posted on 08/29/2003 7:44:27 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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They have argued, for example, that Caligula's renowned plan to make his horse a consul was really a joke that his subjects failed to comprehend.

Another example of "Reality extends no farther than the bounds of my own imagination."
41 posted on 08/30/2003 6:30:52 AM PDT by aruanan
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43 posted on 07/30/2005 7:35:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Tuesday, May 10, 2005.)
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"Suspicious of the very unanimity of the ancient sources, modern scholars have suggested they could have been politically biased."

I have suspicion that many modern scholars are politically biased.

And what's with the apologetic in the article that says he had an unhappy childhood?

Good job, praetorian guards!


44 posted on 07/30/2005 7:41:04 AM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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