Chronology of Christianity (1AD-Present)

Et Cum Spiritu Tuo ^ | Last Update: 28 May 1997 | by Paul Harvey

[xzins]

The term Christian (followers of Christ)came in after the Lord pristhood was taken from the earth.

That's a silly comment, Resty.

The Book of Acts says in chapter 11, verse 26 says, "The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch."

[restornu]

Christians NT (mention 3 times)
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=christian&search.x=23&search.y=6


Saints in OT & NT ( mention 389 times)
http://scriptures.lds.org/query?words=saints&search.x=23&search.y=7

xzins it not that improtant all love Christ!

[xzins]

So, then, you take back your words. I thought so.

"Christian" was a term used early on in the church. Nothing wrong with it.

Therefore, your statement that it wasn't USED until some dreamed-up, so-called 'falling away' of believers is utterly ridiculous.

It was USED in the Bible.

[restornu]

If it makes you feel better find with me!

It all there in print!

[restornu]

Therefore, your statement that it wasn't USED until some dreamed-up, so-called 'falling away' of believers is utterly ridiculous.

Correction xzins I never said "until someone dreaned it up!"

It started out an used as a derogatory term today that is not the case.

This is a thread on Chronology!:)

[xzins]

You don't even know that it was used derogatorily.

You also don't know that the ones who first called them "Christians" weren't from within their own group.

Finally, the Acts passage doesn't speak of it as if it were derogatorily received.

[restornu]

The point you are missing was at that time the enemy of Jesus was mocking those who followed Christ.

The follwers felt proud to be called Christains inspite of the slur!

Why are you making a fuss over something that was courages!

[xzins]

I'm making a point of it because you cannot prove that someone was being mocked, you can't prove that it wasn't a Christian who came up with the word, and you can't prove that Christians didn't welcome the word.

You are assuming things and calling them FACTS.

Do you know the difference between an assumption and a fact?

[restornu]

Have a nice day hope you feel better!

[xzins]

I feel just fine.

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

[Wrigley]

Great moments in church history all.

[Uri’el-2012]

81-96 Revelations written, by John (son of Zebedee) and/or a disciple of his

This seems to be complied by a person who is biblically illiterate.

Is this a new book of the bible ?

My Holy Word calls the book : Revelation or the Unveiling in the Greek.

avpoka,luyij noun nominative feminine singular common

I know this because I read :

NASBU Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John,

a bondslave to the Christ
chuck

[restornu]

Ask Paul Harvey!

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[Uri’el-2012]

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33 posted on 10/19/2003 11:40 AM MDT by restornu

I guess he either does not know the rest of the Story

or

he does and he is unwilling to tell it to you !

Acts 17:11 Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the
Thessalonians, for they received the message with great
eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if
what Paul said was true.

a bondslave to the Christ
chuck

[Alex Murphy]

Got another date missing there, Resty. Actually, this calendar would probably be a lot shorter had you included it.

In what year did the church fall apart, and all Christians begin to apostacize? After all, Joseph Smith claimed to have restored Christ's church to the earth, meaning he also claimed that it fell apart, presumably in the first century....

"I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam....Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet."
...Joseph Smith, quoted in the LDS History Of The Church, Vol. 6, pp. 408-409

[Alex Murphy]

Oops, my mistake Resty. Looks like you already answered my question in your post #19...

Restornu, post #19: "The term Christian (followers of Christ)came in after the Lord pristhood was taken from the earth".

Which, if I'm reading you right, indicates you believe the falling away began prior to Acts 11:26, since that is where the Bible records Jesus' followers were "first called Christians". Jesus' crucifixion is given a date of 36AD, and Acts 12 is given a date of 44AD in your chart above.

Since you allege that the LDS' belief of a "great apostasy of the church" began less than eight years after Christ's ascension - and that the LDS' Melchizidek Priesthood was stripped away from the Apostles themselves for the majority of their ministry - we must conclude that you believe this apostasy must have begun with the Apostles themselves, and that most (if not all) of the New Testament, which was written by the Apostles, was written during their apostasy from Jesus Christ.

But if that's the case Resty, how could Peter, James, and John have appeared to Joseph Smith and restored the Melchizidek Priesthood to the Earth? It was stripped from those Apostles, according to you, prior to 44AD!

[Wrigley]

Good points.

[ksen]

The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.

Would this mean Joseph Smith is somehow greater than Jesus Christ?

[restornu]

The Disciples Were Called Christians First In Antioch (Acts 11:26)
But Was It Their Idea?

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Probably not, even though it seems an appropriate title derived from the word "Christ" which appears hundreds of times in the New Testament and is the Hellenised title of the Messiah who they followed. The word "Christian" is comparatively rare, appearing only three times (Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28 and 1 Peter 4:16) and is therefore unlikely to have been their usual name.

They were sometimes referred to as "The Way", although this was also not their preferred name, but more likely a term of abuse given to them by others, for example in Acts 24:14.

But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets.

It is possible that the term "Christian" was also given to them as a term of abuse, although they gladly adopted it for themselves because they were happy to accept suffering and abuse in the name of Yeshua (Jesus).

The two most popular names that they normally called themselves were "Disciples" and "Saints".

The word "Disciple" (mathetos in Greek) means one who is trained or taught, and appears 31 times in the book of Acts, starting with Acts 1:15.

And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples...

The Hebrew equivalent is "talmid", which means a student who follows a Rabbi.

The word "Saint" (hagios in Greek) means set apart or separated, and appears 62 times in the New Testament, most commonly in the letters of Paul. The Hebrew equivalent is "kadosh" which has the same meaning. The word "Saint" has subsequently been distorted to mean a state of holiness which very few can attain, but in New Testament times it was a regular title for those who believed in Yeshua.

The origin of the term "Christian" is given in Acts 11:25-26 as follows:

Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul, and when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

One of the unfortunate consequences of the term "Christian" is that it gradually came to mean "Not Jewish". The very early Disciples would not have suspected that this was going to happen, because in Hebrew, or in the Hebraised Greek that they normally spoke at that time, it would have sounded more like "Messianic", as in the Jewish New Testament translated by David Stern:

Also it was in Antioch that the talmidim for the first time were called "Messianic".

Words can be dangerous, as this one is for the Jewish believers in Yeshua today. If they call themselves "Christians", or if they even confess that they believe in Yeshua, they are considered to be no longer Jewish and are deprived of the right to immigrate to Israel. If they call themselves "Messianic" instead of "Christian" they are accused of misrepresentation, in spite of the fact that "Christian" is merely a Hellenised version of "Messianic", just as "Kristos" is the Greek translation of the Hebrew "Moshiach".

So much for names and the things people call themselves. I wrote this page so there would be something I can register under the appropriate categories on the Web search engines. The thing I am really interested in is:

http://www.write-on.co.uk/antioch.htm

[restornu]

The Christian and Discipleship

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Note: There is a view prevalent today that a person can be a Christian without being a disciple of Jesus Christ, that he can "accept Jesus as Savior" without accepting him as "Lord." As seen below, however, all occurrences in the Bible of the word "Christian," are only compatible with the idea of discipleship. (One use of the word is even directly tied to being a disciple.) No one would willingly choose to accept the suffering and the life-changes mentioned in these passages, if he were not a disciple, in the true sense of the word. (Of course, much more is available in the Bible on this topic, besides the word, "Christian.")

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Acts 11:22,23,26 - A VISIBLE EVIDENCE OF GOD'S GRACE; BEING A DISCIPLE OF CHRIST
...the church at Jerusalem...sent Barnabas to Antioch. When he arrived and saw the evidence of the grace of God, he was glad and encouraged them all to remain true to the Lord with all their hearts. ...for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The DISCIPLES were called CHRISTIANS first at Antioch.

Acts 26:20, 22-23,27-28 - A CHANGE IN LIFESTYLE (DEMONSTRATED BY ONE'S ACTIONS); ACCEPTING THE MESSAGE OF THE PROPHETS
First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds. ... I am saying nothing beyond what the prophets and Moses said would happen-- that the Christ would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would proclaim light to his own people and to the Gentiles." King Agrippa, do you believe the prophets? I know you do." Then Agrippa said to Paul, "Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a CHRISTIAN?"

1 Peter 1:6-9;4:12-19 - A WILLINGNESS TO SHARE IN CHRIST'S SUFFERINGS (AND TO STILL CONTINUE DOING THE GOOD THINGS THAT CAUSED THAT SUFFERING)
...for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in all kinds of trials. These have come so that your faith--of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire--may be proved genuine and may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed. Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. However, if you suffer as a CHRISTIAN, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name. For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, "If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?" So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.

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