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Crystal Amulet Poses Question On Early Christianity (Denmark - 100AD)
Denmark DK ^ | 3-9-2007

Posted on 03/09/2007 11:37:30 AM PST by blam

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To: AnAmericanMother

Faulty mememor and folk etymology strikes me again. Yes OE and ON are very similar.

Wikipedia:
Harald III Sigurdsson (1015 – September 25, 1066), later surnamed Harald Hardråde (Old Norse: Haraldr harðráði, roughly translated as "Harald stern council" or "hard ruler")

Since I'm at it might as well correct something else, not Trygrvvson, but Harold Sigurdsson!


21 posted on 03/09/2007 12:56:45 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission (Hi lady with the pretty pictures!)
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To: SuziQ

An even more likely explanation is that this was not of Christian origin, but Jewish. The diaspora spread far and wide, was more numerous at the time, and certainly had a longer time to get there.

Here, is a kabbalistic reference to the same time of item:

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=633&letter=A


22 posted on 03/09/2007 1:16:14 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: blam
ABLATHANALBA. Such a word was believed to have mystical powers in early Christian ceremonies,

It contains the last name of Jessica Alba whether read forward or backwards. And Jessica Alba has mystical powers over me ...

23 posted on 03/09/2007 1:22:20 PM PST by ikka
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To: MeanWestTexan

Could very well be. I don't know when the Ashkenazim first formed as a group in northern Europe, but they could have been the Jews who fled the Middle East at the end of the first century AD.


24 posted on 03/09/2007 1:36:54 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: rit
but I use verizon and its disabled.

My Verizon supports Bluetooth. "Thyrvé" what a beautiful name.

25 posted on 03/09/2007 1:44:05 PM PST by Ace's Dad ("There are more important things: Friendship, Bravery...")
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To: gitmogrunt

You don't have "The Book of New Age Bull S***?"


26 posted on 03/09/2007 1:48:40 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: blam; nuconvert; Dajjal
There might be another explanation for ABLATHANALBA (It might be similar to abracadabra. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/abracadabra) Here is a picture

It looks like Greek letters, but it is not necessarily in Greek.

Or, if "Alba" is Gaelic for Scotland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alba
could it be Ab latha n-Alba? something like: O wonder one day in our Scotland (anybody out there that knows Gaelic?)
27 posted on 03/09/2007 2:04:20 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: blam

She may have been a Christian or not. It bears no relfection on King Harald's achievements.

The Christian Anglo-Seaxons were very clear in their references to heathen Vikings.

But the Danes as a whole were not made Christians until King Harald imposed it on all of Denmark.

There were probably individual Christians and Christian communities living in pagan territory long before Christianiy became an official religion.

Look at how long it took before Constantine made it the official religion in the Empire.


28 posted on 03/09/2007 2:09:05 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: AdmSmith
A blath an' Alba . . . [sort of =] "it's warm in Scotland." With proper grammar it ought to be "'S blath anns an Alba" . . .

Global Warming! Global Warming! < runs around doing the Highland fling and collapses >

Tha beagan Ghaidlig agam . . . in other words there's a little Gaelic at me, enough to get me into trouble.

29 posted on 03/09/2007 2:09:30 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: AnAmericanMother

LOL!


30 posted on 03/09/2007 2:15:58 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: Grizzled Bear
"You don't have "The Book of New Age Bull S***?""

Was that the same book that was on sale in the Danish Mystics and Hemp Smokers book store?

31 posted on 03/09/2007 2:19:13 PM PST by gitmogrunt
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To: MeanWestTexan
My Aramaic is not exactly fluent, but phonetically that "magic word" translates to "Thou art our father."

It's also a palindrome if TH is replaced by the letter thorn.

32 posted on 03/09/2007 2:22:01 PM PST by null and void ("If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong." - Charles F. Kettering)
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To: null and void

Nevermind.


33 posted on 03/09/2007 2:26:59 PM PST by null and void ("If you have always done it that way, it is probably wrong." - Charles F. Kettering)
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To: AnAmericanMother; blam

Well, it was a typo in my post, it was not ABLATHANABLA, but ABLANATHANALBA http://www.lib.umich.edu/pap/magic/rb.display.html#no.4 i.e. the Gaelic part was fun, but Bravo Sierra ;-)


34 posted on 03/09/2007 2:41:09 PM PST by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith
A ['S] a bla[th] na tha n'Alba.

"It's warm that it is in Scotland."

Still untrue.

35 posted on 03/09/2007 2:45:46 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: SuziQ
"Could very well be. I don't know when the Ashkenazim first formed as a group in northern Europe, but they could have been the Jews who fled the Middle East at the end of the first century AD."

Go here , look at the bottom of the page and click on 'Genetic Markers' then look to the haplogroup column to the right and click on haplogroup N1 for your answer.

36 posted on 03/09/2007 2:48:49 PM PST by blam
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To: gitmogrunt

That's funny. I can't find any reference to Rosaries or crosses as amulets either. I must be missing the same pages.


37 posted on 03/09/2007 3:10:44 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Maybe Harold Hardrider rode his wife hard and she commemmorated it in writing since he couldn't read to take offense.


38 posted on 03/09/2007 3:12:43 PM PST by wildbill
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To: blam

A more likely trade route during the early years of Christianity would be through Viking Russia and then down the rivers to Constantinople.

This route was a popular trading pattern for Nordic people in those days.


39 posted on 03/09/2007 3:16:04 PM PST by wildbill
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To: gitmogrunt
Yep. Near the Bongs and the "Freak-Ease."
40 posted on 03/09/2007 3:40:51 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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