Posted on 12/10/2008 10:53:09 AM PST by Between the Lines
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I wonder if Noah golfed? LOL. Interesting article.
If the flood wasn’t world-wide and supernatural in origin, then Genesis isn’t true.
It wouldn’t surprise me, there is alot of history in the bible. The myth probably started with an actual flood or tsunami. Didn’t they recently find Sodom and Gomorrah?
do you think he'll ever find that connection between global warming and how mythologies come into existence? I think he's on to something.
the Lord works in mysterious ways...say evolution perhaps. Just like the Pope tells me.
There's some debate among theologians whether the flood was geographically universal or anthropologically universal. It could have submerged all the areas that humankind lived at the time without being global in scope. The Hebrew word used (eretz, I think?) is like English "land", and can refer to the whole earth or a portion thereof.
It's clear the Med region has experienced a great many flood-like events, from tsunamis caused by volcanic eruptions (Santorini) to prehistoric "global warming" when the Pleistocene ice sheets melted and raised sea levels. Untangling the very complex past from current-day geological clues is a difficult and very long-term project.
No, it was global and no one knows what the land completely looked like back then or where “the fountains of the deep” sprouted from.
It’s literally true, but one has to know what it is about.
Multiple thread instances should be merged.
“Based on” an Assyrian epic I’m not sure of. I’ve done a little textual analysis in my day and you can usually tell when one text is based on another because it preserves certain idiosyncracies of the original. Like, you make a mistake and then I just copy the mistake.
There are obvious similarities between the two stories, but to my eye it looks more like they were both independent traditions that preserve an original, probably oral account of the event. And believing as I do in the infallibility of the Sacred Word, I know which account is correct. :)
But yeah, trying to attach this all to geological events is hugely difficult. I wish people would just keep their powder dry and not rush off to adopt wildly speculative theories to prove or disprove the Bible. Let’s make sure we have our exegesis right, and let’s make sure we have our geology right, and the rest will follow.
Then the whole animals on the ark thing was unnecessary
Good advice, Claud.
:’) thanks BtL!
Did Noah’s Flood start in the Carmel?
The Jerusalem Post | 10 Dec 2008 | Etgar Lefkovits
Posted on 12/10/2008 9:25:29 AM PST by BGHater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2146233/posts
Did Noah’s Flood start in the Carmel?
Jerusalem Post | December 10, 2008 | Etgar Lefkovits
Posted on 12/10/2008 9:29:13 AM PST by NYer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146237/posts
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“It could have submerged all the areas that humankind lived at the time without being global in scope.”
“Then the whole animals on the ark thing was unnecessary”
And maybe the people on the ark thing was also unnecessary. After all, even on foot, I reckon one could cover a considerable distance in 120 years!
A fair point, but there are problems with the other view as well, namely that freshwater fish would have died in saltwater and vice versa. And then there's the problem of getting all the species on the ark.
Complicated matter, overall; I don't pretend to know the answer but the question intrigues me.
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