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To: HamiltonJay

I agree with you. An ELCA member who supports ordaining gays and gay weddings told me, “Churches should change, to conform to society.” I said, “No, society should change, to obey the Bible.” She didn’t have a response to my comment. We argued for about a half-hour, and neither of us changed our mind.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 12:52:25 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: PhilCollins

Yes, Church’s are not meant to be a reflection of society, and any church that ever is, is a blasphemous one.


14 posted on 01/13/2010 12:55:38 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: PhilCollins

I’ve long used the phrase “Christ established his Church to change people’s minds; not change itself to suit people’s minds.” As with you, that usually don’t have much of a response.


16 posted on 01/13/2010 1:29:29 PM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: PhilCollins
She probably isn't a big fan of Paul's letter to the Romans:

12:1 I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. 2 Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

19 posted on 01/13/2010 2:01:43 PM PST by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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