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To: NYer
Sorry, the video at the link goes into more detail.

I'll try to summarize the prophecy and my thoughts on who the final Pope could be.

Saint Malachy, was the 12th‑century bishop of Armagh in Ireland, (now part of Northern Ireland). According to the traditional account, in 1139, Malachy was summoned to Rome by Pope Innocent II. While in Rome, Malachy purportedly experienced a vision of future popes, which he recorded as a sequence of cryptic phrases. This manuscript was then deposited in the Roman Archive, and thereafter forgotten about until its rediscovery in 1590.

The interpretation of these cryptic phrases (mottos) has generally relied on finding correspondences between the mottos and the popes' birthplaces, their personal arms, and the events of their pontificates. For example, the first motto, Ex castro Tiberis (From a castle on the Tiber), fits Pope Celestine II's birthplace in Città di Castello, on the Tiber.

The final motto is: Peter the Roman

Who will nourish the sheep in many tribulations; when they are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the fearsome Judge will judge His people. The End.

My thoughts on why Cardinal Turkson is a good candidate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2490481/posts?page=15#15

31 posted on 08/08/2011 2:59:43 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
Thank you for the clarification and your suggested final pope based on Malachy's purported prophesy.

In one of your earlier links, however, it clearly states:

The problem with the prophecies as listed in The Prophecies of St. Malachy, published by the Thomas A. Nelson, a Catholic Publishing House, is that Malachy's original works listed only 111 Popes, not 112, as given in the TAN version of the prophecies. Sometime between the first and subsequent printings the 112th, Petrus Romanus, was added to Malachy's prophecy. It was added after the 1820 publication of the prophecies.

That additional bit of information tends to squelch your papabile nomination, does it not?

The one assurance we Catholics have is the promise made by our Lord to St. Peter: "And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age", is fulfilled again (Matthew 28:20).

34 posted on 08/08/2011 3:59:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Errant
Thank you for the clarification and your suggested final pope based on Malachy's purported prophesy.

In one of your earlier links, however, it clearly states:

The problem with the prophecies as listed in The Prophecies of St. Malachy, published by the Thomas A. Nelson, a Catholic Publishing House, is that Malachy's original works listed only 111 Popes, not 112, as given in the TAN version of the prophecies. Sometime between the first and subsequent printings the 112th, Petrus Romanus, was added to Malachy's prophecy. It was added after the 1820 publication of the prophecies.

That additional bit of information tends to squelch your papabile nomination, does it not?

The one assurance we Catholics have is the promise made by our Lord to St. Peter: "And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age" (Matthew 28:20).

35 posted on 08/08/2011 3:59:47 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: Errant

Peter the Roman was not part of Malachy’s original writing and account. He stopped at 111 which is the current Pope. 112 or Peter the Roman was added by someone to the second printing but was no part of the first and original account of Malachy.


42 posted on 08/08/2011 6:38:59 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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