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Talking about reminding Moslems of their pre-Islamic past, I think it is important because Islam basically says that everything before Izlam is unworthy of remembering -- hence the destruction of not only monuments but also memories of pre-Izlamic Arabia, and we saw it in the Taliban's destructions of the giant Buddhas of Bamiyan. Those were built when AFghanistan was a centre of Buddhism which came from India under the Maurya Empire

Afghans history is of Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Manichaenism, Christianity (Church of the East) before Izlam. And the Talibs wanted to obliterate that.

The Pakistanis now like to pretend that they are not of Indian extraction but try to say they are actually Arabs (which Arabs laugh at) -- and deny their past

In Egypt, there was a chance at the end of the 19th century when Pharoanism (pride in ancient Egypt) flourished, but then it was superseded by the Moslem brotherhood and pan-Izlam. Ditto for the Amazhighen (Berbers) in North Africa

If we can get these countries to think of their times before Izlam, we have a way of breaking the grip of jhadiism

>>>”Afghans history is of Buddhism, Hinduism, Zoroastrianism, Manichaenism, Christianity (Church of the East) before Izlam.”<<<

You’re right. Though, I have not heard of any Afghans converting to Buddhism, Manichaenism, or Hindusim in recent years. But, heard of & personally know several of them converting to Zoroastrianism, and Christianity. Of course, they can’t make it publicly known because of apostasy laws of Islam in Afghanistan & regardless of the Taliban.

Also, ethnic “Pashtun” Afghans aside, the other ethnic groups in Afghan (such as Hazaras, Tajiks & Nuristanis), similar to Tajikistan (country despite Soviet Russian occupation), have a very close ethnic, linguistic & cultural affinity with Iran.

Dari as the other official language in Afghnistan (lingua franca), widely spoken by non-Pashtuns, is very similar to Persian (farsi) spoken in Iran. I speak, read and write Persian fluently, therefore understand most Dari (dialects) spoken in Afghanistan.

Funnily, Dari dialect spoken *only* by Zoroastrians in Iran & in India is quite different to Dari spoken in Afghanistan. My mother speak Zoroastrian Dari fluently. But even Pashto spoken by Pashtuns in Afghanistan and Pakistan belong to Indo-Iranian grp of languages.

I can see Afghanistan & Tajikistan having the *potential* to revert to Zoroastrianism, or generally move away from Islam. But, don’t see that happening in Pakistan or Egypt. They are too far gone.

Actually, Pakistanis wanted to separate from India, which they did in late 1940s IIRC, because they wanted to establish an Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Culturally, the average Pakistani is way too Islamized/Arabized & has not retained much of its pre-Islamic past at all.

This is the key to breaking the hold that islam has on the minds of the people. Islam controls people in two ways; from the inside and from the outside. The inside control is over the minds, thinking and identity of the people. The outer control is through coercion and threat. Since people need to believe something inside, making them aware of their pre-islamic past would give them a strong motivation to break free. Half the battle is identity. The muslim leadership understand this as they try to wipe out anything that will remind people of who they were before the muslim invasions. They also know that they brought islam into these countries through the vilest brutality and of course, they don't want people to know what the islamist conquerors did to their ancestors.

Here is something that I have just recently discovered about the meaning of the veil. The veil is another form of terrorism and subjugation. The veil identifies women as being muslim or non-muslim, therefore muslim men know which women are safe to rape. Muslim women cannot be raped while non-muslim women can. The veil keeps muslim women from going outside of islam to date non-muslim men because a veiled woman is identified as a muslim and must not be seen with a non-muslim man. In this way the muslim seed is kept “unpolluted” by the kaffir and the muslims do not lose their women to infidel men. This keeps the muslims apart and hostile to non-muslims since inter-marriage is not allowed. Finally, since not wearing the veil identifies a woman as being “fair game” for rape, the non-muslim population is terrorized and harassed by the rape of their women which is another pressure that over time causes many people to convert to islam so that they will be safe from this abuse.