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Sad News About Charles Stanley’s In Touch Magazine
http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=12341 ^ | July 25th, 2013 | Ligthouse Trails Editors

Posted on 10/19/2013 8:50:26 PM PDT by jodyel

Lighthouse Trails has watched in dismay over the past few years as Charles Stanley’s In Touch magazine has made the decision to promote contemplative/emergent names. When our editors picked up a copy of the August 2013 issue and saw a feature article written by Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, we decided to call In Touch Ministries to find out who was responsible for the content in the magazine. Sadly, the response we received from the editorial department at In Touch left us with a sinking feeling that the evangelical church has been seduced and there was no turning back.

We’ll talk about the phone call in a minute but first a look at Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove.

In June of 2011, Lighthouse Trails free lance writer Mike Stanwood wrote “Contemplative Spirituality Lands on Charles Stanley’s In Touch Magazine . . . Again.” In this article, it was revealed that in the January 2011 In Touch magazine issue, Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove was featured in an article written by In Touch Managing Editor Cameron Lawrence. That article, titled “The Craft of Stability: Discovering the Ancient Art of Staying Put,” highlighted the “ intentional Christian community” at the Rutba House (Wilson-Hartgrove’s home) and their “daily prayer routine.” The In Touch article stated that Rutba House is an evangelical community rooted in the Protestant tradition and that Wilson-Hartgrove is an ordained Baptist minister, yet it also reported that Rutba’s community principles are borrowed from Benedictine monks and that all of their efforts are based on St. Benedict’s “rule of life.”

In Stanwood’s article, he points out that Wilson-Hartgrove is part of the “New Monasticism” movement within the emerging church. To help you understand just how serious this situation is with Charles Stanley and his ministry, read this following section of Stanwood’s article:

Wilson-Hartgrove is most recently known for co-authoring Common Prayer: A Liturgy for Ordinary Radicals with new monastic activist Shane Claiborne. Other books he has authored may also fall into the emerging/contemplative category. For example, one such book called New Monasticism: What It Has to Say to Today’s Church (1) has been endorsed by mystic proponents Brian McLaren, Phyllis Tickle, Tony Campolo, and Catholic priest and centering prayer advocate Richard Rohr. The mystics resonate with the “new monasticism” – this is plain to see.

On the surface, the new monasticism may look OK with its many good works of helping the poor and the needy. But the underlying belief system does not line up with biblical doctrine; rather it is about establishing an all-inclusive kingdom of God on earth now where individual salvation is replaced with a community salvation for the whole world. Atonement has less emphasis on Jesus Christ as the only atonement for man’s sins and instead becomes an at-one-ment where all of creation is “being” saved by coming together as one (and yes, seeing the divinity of man). This is the kind of “atonement” that McLaren, Tickle, and Rohr would resonate with.

It is important to see that they don’t just resonate with the good works coming out of the new monasticism; born-again Christians have been performing good works by helping the poor and needy for centuries and continue to do so. While this new monasticism supposedly distinguishes itself by its good works, in reality it is mysticism and the foundational beliefs of mysticism (i.e., panentheism, kingdom now, etc) that distinguish it. And it is that element that Tickle, McLaren, and Rohr embrace.

Additional resources on Wilson-Hartgrove’s website include a DVD called Discovering Christian Classics: 5 Sessions in the Ancient Faith of Our Future, a five-week study with contemplative advocate Lauren F. Winner (Girl Meets God) for high school or adult “formation.” A description of this DVD states:

“You will discover the meaning of conversion and prayer from the Desert Fathers and Mothers; how to love from the sermons of St. John Chrysostom; St. Benedict’s Rule of Life and how it became one of the foundations of Western Christian spirituality; how to have an intimate relationship with God according to The Cloud of Unknowing; and what it means to ‘pick up your cross” in the Imitation of Christ by Thomas A. Kempis.’”

Another book Wilson-Hartgrove has authored, called The Wisdom of Stability: Rooting Faith in a Mobile Culture, refers readers to the wisdom of Lao-tzu, the desert monastics, Thomas Merton, Benedictine spirituality, panentheist and interspiritualist Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, and Benedictine nun Joan Chittister.

In a Beliefnet interview one year ago, Wilson-Hartgrove shared how “we need the wisdom of those who’ve gone before us.” This wisdom he is referring to comes not from the Bible, but from the contemplative “Benedictines (who) taught us to start the day with common prayer.”1

After seeing what is at the core of Wilson-Hartgrove’s spiritual wisdom, it is not surprising to learn that he recently made an appearance at the [very emergent] Wild Goose Festival .2 According to an article in the Christian Post, the Wild Goose Festival was a “four-day revival camp in North Carolina featuring music, yoga, liberal talk and embracing of gays and lesbians.”

The fact is, anyone who is drawn to Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, as Wilson-Hartgrove is, has got to be following a different spirit and another gospel or at the very least greatly deceived. Chardin, who is attributed to the term “cosmic Christ,” did not hide the fact in his writings that he believed, not in the Christ of the Bible, but a christ consciousness in every human being.

While we do not challenge Wilson-Hartgrove’s sincerity or concern for the poor and needy, we must challenge his consistent promotion of contemplative mystics and emergent leaders, and he certainly does not seem like a proper fit with In Touch Ministries, that is unless In Touch is going emerging. The reason we say this about Wilson-Hartgrove’s sincerity has to do with the phone call we had with two editors of the editorial staff of In Touch magazine on July 24, 2013. One of the editors we spoke with was Cameron Lawrence, the Editor in Chief (and also the one who wrote the 2011 In Touch article featuring Wilson-Hartgrove). Lawrence asked us if we had ever spoken with Wilson-Hartgrove personally, suggesting that he was a sincere man who lived out the Gospel by helping the needy. We answered him by stating that the issue at hand was not a private matter but rather a public issue because Wilson-Hartgrove is a public figure (books, conferences, articles, etc). We said that it did not matter what he might say in a private conversation, but it did matter what he was teaching others. And it mattered greatly that In Touch was promoting him.

When we spoke with Cameron Lawrence, we told him we wanted to know who was responsible for putting the article by Wilson-Hartgrove in the magazine to which he told us “the entire editorial staff” made the decision. We asked him if he would be interested in seeing some of our documentation to which he answered, “I have been on the Lighthouse Trails website, and I didn’t find it helpful.” The other editor we spoke with, who wished to remain anonymous, said it sounded like we were on a “witch hunt” to which we responded, “No, we are part of a Gospel-protection effort.”

At times like this, it is difficult not to become discouraged by the lack of interest in Christian intelligentsia and leadership regarding the contemplative/emerging issue. What more can we say to show them what seems so obvious to ourselves and many other Bible believing contenders of the faith? A number of years ago, when the Be Still DVD (a contemplative infomercial) came out and we saw Charles Stanley’s name in the credits as someone who supported the DVD, we contacted his ministry and spoke with a personal assistant. He accepted our offer for a free copy of A Time of Departing but said that Charles Stanley would be too busy to read it.

If the mystics whom Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove gravitates to are right, then Jesus’ words that He is the only Way to the Father are wrong. You can’t have it both ways. The opposite view – the contemplative – is that God is in all things, including all people. This is what all mystics believe, across the board. And if that were true, then the need for a Savior would vanish, and there wouldn’t be any need for ”one way” to God because man is already indwelled with God and a part of God.

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

Endnotes: 1. New Monasticism & The Emergent Church: FS Talks with Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove: http://blog.beliefnet.com/flunkingsainthood/2010/06/new-monasticism-the-emergent-church-fs-talks-with-jonathan-wilson-hartgrove.html.

2. Learn more about the Wild Goose Festival here: Left-Leaning ‘Wild Goose’ Festival Draws Ire of Evangelicals


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: apostates; baptist; charlesstanley; emergent; evangelicals; intouch
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To: verga

For cryin’ out loud, whatsa matter with you people?

Lighthouse Trails...based in Montana...I highly doubt they are coming for you, verga. You ain’t that important!

Jehovah’s Witnesses..cult....Watchtower magazine.

Lighthouse knows a cult when it sees one and calls ‘em on it.

JWs are a cult and don’t know it.

Catholicism...well, let’s just say falls in the category as the JWs.


221 posted on 10/22/2013 1:38:28 AM PDT by jodyel
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To: jodyel
None of them and that is what we are specifically advocating against here...

You are doling exactly what I said. YOU are taking the word of some one else. Do you believe everything the media says about the TEA party, conservatives or anything else not liberal?

222 posted on 10/22/2013 2:20:11 AM PDT by verga (Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis)
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To: jodyel
Catholicism...well, let’s just say falls in the category as the JWs.

Someone is projecting again.

223 posted on 10/22/2013 2:23:05 AM PDT by verga (Si hoc legere scis, nimium eruditionis)
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To: terycarl; Elsie
where on Earth did you come up with all those errant Popes.....oh, that's right....from the Catholic Church....we do tend to correct our own errors.

When?

That's quite a list covering quite a time span. Just how long is it supposed to take?

I'll tell you, with what I see in the way of reaction about your current pope, it sure isn't an expedient process.

224 posted on 10/22/2013 3:45:37 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: terycarl; jodyel
jodyel:My point is that one doesn’t have to be involved in a church building or religion to be a born again Christian. But some think you must. I am here to say it ain’t so.

tc:very sadly, you are wrong...Christ said so.

Where? Chapter and verse, please.....

225 posted on 10/22/2013 3:46:59 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: jodyel

Psalm 63

O God, you are my God; earnestly I seek you;
my soul thirsts for you;
my flesh faints for you,
as in a dry and weary land where there is no water.
2 So I have looked upon you in the sanctuary,
beholding your power and glory.
3 Because your steadfast love is better than life,
my lips will praise you.
4 So I will bless you as long as I live;
in your name I will lift up my hands.

5 My soul will be satisfied as with fat and rich food,
and my mouth will praise you with joyful lips,
6 when I remember you upon my bed,
and meditate on you in the watches of the night;
7 for you have been my help,
and in the shadow of your wings I will sing for joy.
8 My soul clings to you;
your right hand upholds me.

9 But those who seek to destroy my life
shall go down into the depths of the earth;
10 they shall be given over to the power of the sword;
they shall be a portion for jackals.
11 But the king shall rejoice in God;
all who swear by him shall exult,
for the mouths of liars will be stopped.


226 posted on 10/22/2013 4:06:22 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: jodyel
salvation is ... complete at the time it is given.

with fear and trembling work out your salvation (Phil. 2:12)

labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election (2 Peter 1:10)

If you have an interest in Christ perhaps it would be a good idea to read the Holy Bible every once in a while before you post idiocies like that.

227 posted on 10/22/2013 5:18:28 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Syncro; jodyel
whose knowledge of Jesus is true AND COMPLETE

Any canonized Catholic saint would posses such knowledge, and anyone can become a Catholic saint if he wanted to.

228 posted on 10/22/2013 5:21:00 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: boatbums; jodyel

An ignorant heathen can, perhaps be saved through ignorance and good works alone, but not someone bashing the Holy Church of God daily on the Internet.


229 posted on 10/22/2013 5:23:16 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: jodyel
Perhaps but it was not as crystal clear as it should have been from a believer

Oh come on now...

I'm a 'believer'; and I can get a hundred ahems that my posts are not always crystal clear!

230 posted on 10/22/2013 9:16:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1
Neither would Stanley be, the way I understand it, should he conform to clear Biblical standards, by recognizing that God has dismissed him from the pastoral, elder, or deacon roles, accepting this state, and continuing on in celibacy.

This is my only concern - your understanding.

I've not seen the 'clear' standards that you have, evidently, plainly seen.

231 posted on 10/22/2013 9:20:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex
...St. Peter was singled out for the leadership in the Catholic Church ...

Only retroactively; BY the 'church'.

232 posted on 10/22/2013 9:22:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1
Eh? Indeed!

I will not judge Stanley on what he did or did not 'do' only by looking at the results.

I know of at least FIVE blind men that came up with differing answers to what an elephant was.

233 posted on 10/22/2013 9:24:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: imardmd1
May I inject myself into your dialogue with others, to ask if you have received the baptism into discipleship, and are at least a regular constituent and participant of a local assembly of regenerated believers, engaged regularly in the Remembrance Supper?

The yearly JEWISH one or the newly created Christian one?


And, BTW, what does 'regularly' mean?

234 posted on 10/22/2013 9:25:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: annalex; jodyel
Since both of you appear to be HUMAN; I say that NEITHER of you have complete knowledge of GOD.

--ELSIE















235 posted on 10/22/2013 9:27:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jodyel

But... you are still meeting with Believers!

Hebrews 10:25


236 posted on 10/22/2013 9:28:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: jodyel
But I also do not expect that to last forever either.

But if not...

Daniel 3:18

237 posted on 10/22/2013 9:29:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
where on Earth did you come up with all those errant Popes.....oh, that's right....from the Catholic Church....we do tend to correct our own errors.

HMMMmmm...

238 posted on 10/22/2013 9:30:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
we do tend to correct our own errors.

IIRC, Luther WAS a Catholic, wasn't he!

239 posted on 10/22/2013 9:31:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Luther WAS a Catholic, wasn't he!

Good thing that HE came along; for who knows WHERE your precious church would be without the COUNTER reformation!

240 posted on 10/22/2013 9:32:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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