Posted on 02/08/2018 12:27:20 PM PST by metmom
Acts 17:29-31 Being then God's offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man. In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”
1 Timothy 2:1-4 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you,a not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
Jesus is God come in the flesh. Whatever Jesus did He did as the Father directed Him.
So whatever you see Jesus doing is a direct reflection of the Father’s heart and what the Father would do if He were here on earth.
All you have to do is look and see how Jesus related to the downtrodden and hurting. The only ones He was hard on were the religious leaders who were such hypocrites.
I’ll tell you, any god who comes to earth, goes through a 9 month gestation, goes through the tedium of growing up, learning to walk and talk, just like any other human being, who WALKED everywhere, and spent untold hours teaching and healing people, CARES about His people.
He didn’t HAVE to do it.
None of those people whom Jesus met and ministered to on His life here on earth were any more or less worthy of His attention than you are.
And believe me, I do and can understand the feeling that God doesn’t care. Been there, done that, and I still sometimes wrestle with that.
There are no easy answers for those of us in the midst of the fiery furnace of affliction.
I know that it’s small and cold comfort to be told you are not alone in your suffering and that other people feel as abandoned by God as you do. But you are not as alone as you maybe, perhaps think.
Penned by a common man.....Why didn't God reveal Himself to the other nations of the world in order to eliminate any future confusion such as this?
Or maybe He did as evidenced in the other religions who worship their own form of God...........
A common man moved by the Hoky Spirit to write those words.
Holy Spirit.
Why are you coming on a Christian thread linking to a heretical man-made theology that calls for Christians to deny that Jesus is the Messiah? There is no biblical laws called the 7 laws of Noah but that which was born of the Pharisees who denied that Jesus is the Messiah.
http://www.hasidicuniversity.org/index.php?page=hu_theocracy/th01_idolatry.htm
2 Examples that Christians need to beware and not fall for these fake “noahide” laws the unbelieving Pharisees invented.
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Mandated punishment for violation: Death penalty
Brief description:
Not to worship any false god in any one of four standard ways: (a) bowing, (b) making sacrificial offerings, (c) burning incense, or (d) pouring libations (such as wine or water). These four ritual acts are all involved in the worship of the true G-d in the Jerusalem Temple (once it is rebuilt from its current ruins), and thus are sanctified modes of worship that are forbidden to be exercised for any false god, even if the act is not part of the customary ritual for that false religion (whereas commandment -6 deals with the established rituals specific to each false religion). Thus even if it is not an established Christian custom to offer sacrificial foods to Jesus, nor would Buddhists normally pour libations for their idol, either act would nonetheless be a capital crime.
This commandment also prohibits the verbal acceptance of any false god as one’s deity, on pain of death penalty.
Examples:
•Not to verbally accept Jesus as one’s god or “lord.”
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Mandated punishment for violation: Death penalty
Brief description:
Not to worship a false god according to the customary rituals established by its religion. Some idols or false gods are worshipped through bowing, burning incense, or making offerings of food; others through certain types of dancing, singing, chanting, or meditation; others through growing one’s hair long, shaving it off, and offering it; and others through ceremonies involving fire, water, or convening at certain locations at certain times of year. Whatever the practice of the false religion, even a single act of such worship is a capital offense.
While it is also a sin to believe in the existence of a false god (commandment -1), even without worshipping it, that act of false belief is not covered in this commandment.
Examples:
•Not to bow to a Buddha statue, nor to offer incense before it.
•Not to be baptized in Christianity, nor to pray in the name of Jesus.
•Not to participate in worship ceremonies of Hinduism, Hare Krishna, or various “New Age” cult movements — including transcendental meditation or Yoga — even if no idol is physically present.
•Not to celebrate such pagan holidays as Easter, Halloween, or Christmas.
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God is so AWESOME we can ponder and imagine all we want and never get close to the awesome truth - of a God who invites us into eternity with Him and it will never get old/stale/tiresome....
It doesn't matter if God revealed Himself to a "common" man or not.
He DID reveal Himself and it was through Jesus and it's OUR job to see to it that the world hears about Him, just like it was the job of the Jews to present God to the world.
Or maybe He did as evidenced in the other religions who worship their own form of God...........
They don't worship their own form of God.
The other religions of the world are not fundamentally the same or worship essentially the same God. They made up their own and worship that.
Please give us the Scriptural references where these 7 laws God gave to Noah can be found.
jjotto, also please show us where the commands of God that demand someone be put to death for accepting Christ are found in Scripture.
God did not say he chose a scripture. God said he chose a people.
One of the Seven Laws of the Children of Noah is to establish courts of justice. These would not be Jewish courts, but rather courts established by each nation according to their own preferences, provided they intend the goal of justice and an orderly society.
Godly courts in the Land of Israel administered by Jews would indeed be stricter than those of the nations.
http://www.aish.com/jl/jnj/nj/80405497.html?s=rab
Yes jotto,
YHWH Elohim chose a people, a people that would believe in & follow His Word that He calls His Messiah. Yeshua (Jesus) is the name of the flesh that the Word appeared to men in after Israel rejected Him as their sovereign. [1Sam 8:7] And from there is was all down hill because they chose to put the Word of YHWH 3rd after the laws that they made & the traditions of Baal they had adopted. [2Kg 17]
So to set the record straight, Israel was a mixed multitude of the sons of Jacob and many of the nations who left Egypt with the sons of Jacob. Therefore, Israel is neither Jew nor Gentile, it is a people who believe in the living Word of Elohim that has been from the beginning of time. Even your Talmud (man-made law of the unbelieving Pharisees) admits this fact, that the Messiah has been from the beginning & it was the Messiah in Spirit who delivered Israel out of Egypt... from Sanhedrin, Chapter 11 ....
“The days of Messiah shall endure as long as long as from creation until now, as it is written...”
“The days of Messiah shall be 7000 years, as it is written, and the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall they Elohim (God) rejoice over thee...”
The Father CHOSE His Messiah & all who believe in His Messiah are Israel, DNA & religion need not apply. Which is why it is written that He will once again, gather, purge the rebels, and ONLY the Israel of Messiah will enter into His reign. [Eze 20]
Shalom
“The righteous of all nations have a share in the World to Come.”
Not so cut & dried as you state jjotto, as the fake noahide laws say those courts are to be run by what the Talmud calls “Hasidic Gentiles” aka “Noahides” who deny that Yeshua (Jesus) is the Messiah of YHWH Elohim. And those “Hasidic Gentiles” do not accept testimony from those who believe & openly confess that Yeshua (Jesus) is the Messiah of YHWH Elohim. The fact that they believe & confess the true Messiah of Israel over the false chosen one of the rabbinic is an automatic death sentence unless they deny Him before the court.
http://www.hasidicuniversity.org/index.php?page=hu_theocracy/th07_justice.htm
http://www.hasidicuniversity.org/index.php?page=hu_theocracy/th08_general.htm
Righteous according to whom? Man? There is no righteousness in the man-made noahide laws because they are of men and not of YHWH Elohim & His Messiah.
The FACT is, there was NO oral law given at Mt. Sinai to the Moses & the 70 elders. They received what is written today & that only, so that no man should add to it or take away from what is written. The fact that that command to not add to and not take away from what is written is the only evidence one needs to prove these noahide laws invented by men are just that, an invention birthed out of the imaginations of men, laws that have no one jot or tittle of support from YHWH Elohim & His Messiah.
It’s not our mission to conceptualize God
Those interested should seek known Jewish sources: aish.com, chabad.org, ou.org, torah.org. Better yet, consult an Orthodox rabbi from a OU or Agudath Israel or Chabad congregation.
Plenty of fake and misleading stuff on the internet.
Those interested in the truth need only visit the Hasidic University that teaches “noahidism” because everything at all those other websites, that whitewash the real truth of the false man-made noahide laws, is found at the Hasidic University website where each false law has references back to the Talmud from which they were invented.
http://www.hasidicuniversity.org/index.php?page=hu_theocracy/th_toc.htm
Universal Theocratic Law
for Non-Jews
(620 commandments)
Table of Contents
Overview of Theocratic Law
1. Commandments Against Idolatry
(57 commandments: 7 positive, 50 negative)
2. Commandments Against Blasphemy
(39 commandments: 14 positive, 25 negative)
3. Commandments Against Murder
(6 commandments: 2 positive, 4 negative)
4. Commandments Against Theft
(37 commandments: 16 positive, 21 negative)
5. Commandments Against Immoral Relations
(32 commandments: 3 positive, 29 negative)
6. Commandments Against Eating Living Animals
(3 commandments: 3 negative)
7. Commandments For Legal Justice
(37 commandments: 15 positive, 22 negative)
General Commandments for Orderly Society
(31 commandments: 14 positive, 17 negative)
Optional Commandments
(112 commandments: 51 positive, 56 negative, 5 rabbinical)
Irrelevant / Forbidden Commandments
(235 commandments: 116 positive, 117 negative, 2 rabbinical)
Uncertain Commandments
(31 commandments: 10 positive, 21 negative)
Like the following verse.
John 1:11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
The prophetic perfect tense is a literary technique used in the Bible that describes future events that are so certain to happen that they are referred to in the past tense as if they already happened.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophetic_perfect_tense
Sinai is the place of the giving of the Law, but who's looking there [in the modern era], as it has been relegated to the dustbin of history.
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