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To: metmom; Elsie; Fantasywriter; imardmd1

Jesus said that Peter was *petros*(masculine) and that on this *petra*(feminine) He would build His church.


Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

I believe you need to get out of the dictionary and just read what the Bible says because what you say that it says is not the truth.

If you believed any thing Jesus said you would not have any need to try to come up with every definition in the book.

As i have said before i am not saying that Peter was the rock that Jesus was going to build his Church on, i am just saying that Jesus did call peter a rock.

John 1:42
42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.

Greek translates it to stone, exactly the same meaning so please quit calling Jesus a liar.


381 posted on 06/09/2018 10:48:56 AM PDT by ravenwolf (Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
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To: ravenwolf

Immediately after the Good Confession Jesus called Peter, ‘Petros,’ and the confession itself—i.e.: the foundation upon which the church is built—’petra.’ That is a fact.


382 posted on 06/09/2018 10:55:08 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: ravenwolf

Making both petra and petros translate into the same thing and then building a doctrine on that weak translation, is what makes God a liar.

Christ is the PETRA on which the church is built. Paul identified Him as such.

Paul did NOT say that the church was built on PETROS which he very easily could have if he meant the church was built on Peter.

The Greek words are distinct and mean different things and were chosen for that reason.

It’s really revealing, the depths of deception, that enable someone to deny what Scriptiure says to hang on to and defend a cherished doctrine.

Doctrine should be compared to Scripture and adjusted to Scripture if necessary. Comparing Scripture to doctrine and adjusting Scripture to the doctrine shows that deception has already occurred.


384 posted on 06/09/2018 11:25:47 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: ravenwolf

Do you recall the long, fiercely pitched battle you waged against Scripture bc Greek differentiates between cousins and brothers? The inspired Word of God clearly, unquestionably refers to Jesus’ *brothers,* - NOT His ‘cousins.’

Your battle is not with fellow believers. Your battle is with God. It was He, and not any mere mortal, who selected the language in which to reveal His Word.

Think long and hard, please, before you continue this battle against God. Rather, pray that the Holy Spirit will lead you into wisdom and insight. You will be eternally grateful if you do.


385 posted on 06/09/2018 11:27:43 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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