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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

Marian devotion is the cure for heresy and the healing of all heretics. We must turn to her for refuge from the heretical depravity now consuming the Church. Marian devotion is the destruction of error, the fount of humility, and a potent safeguard for orthodox faith.

Mary Is the Destroyer of All Heresies

In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort writes:

The most infallible and indubitable sign by which we may distinguish a heretic, a man of bad doctrine, a reprobate, from one of the predestinate, is that the heretic and the reprobate have nothing but contempt and indifference for our Blessed Lady, endeavoring by their words and examples to diminish the veneration and love of her. (30)

In the Tract for the Mass Salve Sancta Parens, the Church sings, “Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou alone hast destroyed all heresies.” From this, Pope St. Pius X invoked her as “Destroyer of Heresies” in Pascendi 58. And again, it was in the context of St. Dominic’s war against heresy that the Holy Rosary, Mary’s psalter, was revealed.

Thus, it is manifest that Our Lady holds a special place in the relationship of Holy Church with heresy and heretics. Why is this? It is because the root cause of heresy is not anger, lust, or sloth, but pride. A formal heretic pridefully and obstinately rejects the authority of the Church and the authority of the Fathers. His whole opinion hinges on an imaginary antiquarianism created by his pride. And it is against the sin of pride that Our Lady most perfectly shows her power. This is why St. Louis says in another place:

[Satan] fears her not only more than all Angels and men, but in some sense more than God Himself … because Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and her humility humbles him more than the Divine power. (True Devotion, 52)

Demons and heretics fear her because she threatens to humble them. The latter impiously attack her under the pretense that they are safeguarding the honor due to God. In reality, they know that Mary will destroy their prideful opinions. “Humility is an abomination to the proud ” (Ecclus. 13:24).

How Mary Humbles the Proud

When the Holy Spirit exalted Mary by the mouth of St. Elizabeth, Mary said:

He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat and hath exalted the humble. (Lk. 1:51)

Devotion to Mary brings humility to the soul. Just as St. John heard her voice and leaped for joy, and St. Elizabeth immediately humbled herself, saying “Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk. 1:43), we too know this humility when we exalt Mary.

Mary humbles us because God wills that Jesus Christ be manifested to the world through her. According to nature, any man is her equal. According to grace and merit, she is “more honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim” [1]. In Mary, our humility is truly tested because she is a human, not God.

Humility toward God is presumed by all, and heretics falsely think themselves humble because they say they submit to God. But their pride is revealed when they refuse to submit to man — both legitimate authority and the sayings of the wise. “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsels” (Prov. 12:15).

A humble man may even debase himself before wicked men, as our Lord did.  But heretics have no humility toward men. In reality, heretics are attempting to impose their private opinion on all authorities. They have no humility toward any human but are consumed in their own selves. As the history of Protestantism has shown, it is easy to feign humility toward God while exalting yourself over every man. This is the way of all the heretics.

One who is humble toward Mary will be humble toward authority. Mary especially checks the pride of heretics by proclaiming that they cannot have their own private, “personal Jesus,” since our Lord has forever bound Himself to His mother by His incarnation. In the same way that the Incarnation is the foundation of our redemption — without which there can be no Passion or Resurrection — the human person of Jesus Christ cannot exist without the person of Mary [2]. As I have written in another place, true union with Christ will result in love of Mary as our mother, who was also the first natural cause of His appearance to the world.

Marian Devotion is a test for orthodoxy

Since Marian Devotion is the fount of humility, it becomes a powerful test for orthodoxy. For example, when St. John Vianney’s lack of intelligence presented a barrier to his ordination, he was evaluated like this:

The vicar-general asked the superior of the seminary: ‘Is young Vianney pious? Is he devoted to the Blessed Virgin?’ The authorities were able to assure him fully upon these points. ‘Then,’ said the vicar-general, ‘I will receive him. Divine grace will do the rest.’ [3]

And so the Church ordained the future patron of parish priests. Sometimes it is as simple as asking if a man has Marian devotion. If a man is truly devoted to our Lady, he can be no heretic. St. Louis again:

“If you follow her,” says St. Bernard, “you cannot wander from the road.” Fear not, therefore, that a true child of Mary can be deceived by the evil one, or fall into any formal heresy. There where the guidance of Mary is, neither the evil spirit with his illusions, nor the heretics with their subtleties, can ever come — Ipsa tenente, non corruis. (True Devotion, 209) [4]

Thus, it is unsurprising that when we read through Building a Bridge by James Martin, S.J., a book purported to be about mercy and compassion, not a single page mentions the Mother of mercy and compassion. In fact, on page 130, he even erroneously asserts that at the Resurrection, Mary Magdalene was the first Christian, implicitly denying our Lady and the entire tradition of her Saturday memorial in which her sole faithfulness is commemorated. The examples of his warped or deficient Marian piety are only too easy to find [5].

But it is even more disturbing when we read how the Rhine group at Vatican II successfully suppressed the document on the Mother of God, relegating it, by a narrow vote, to the final section in Lumen Gentium (against the protests from Eastern Catholic bishops and others) [6]. When their efforts to suppress Marian devotion were opposed by Paul VI (to his credit), the time became known to them as “Black Week” [7]. Perhaps more alarming, Ratzinger himself admits that his Marian piety was weak in Last Testament and seems to imply the false dichotomy that Marian piety is not Christocentric [8]. Without succumbing to the sin of rash judgment, it is nevertheless suggestive that this lack of Marian piety correlates with an apparent hubris on the part of many Vatican II “reformers.”

Whatever the true state of these and other men with an apparent reluctance to love and honor their own mother, we can be certain that our Blessed Lady is a sure refuge from heresy. As Fr. Ripperger has stated, without a strong intellectual formation, everyone becomes a Modernist in our corrupt society. That is why we must cling to Our Lady for refuge from heretics and heresy in our time.

True devotion to Mary keeps us safe from the excesses of pride. Even more in our day, let us consider: she stood firm, though she witnessed the Passion and death of our Lord. We also must stand firm, even as we are witnessing the passion and death of the Church. Moreover, it seems clear from her frequent apparitions since the 19th century that Our Lord has purposed His mother for a special role in resolving this crisis. Let us pray our daily rosary and make the First Saturdays. Let us abide with Our Lady in the Passion of the Church and never lose hope for the Glorious Resurrection.


[1] Eastern Catholic Marian antiphon

[2] So too the mediation of the Sacraments — through another human — we receive our Lord.

[3] The Life of Saint John Vianney, The Curé of Ars, ch. 1

[4] It should be noted that Marian devotion is not an infallible test for orthodoxy, but merely a general rule against which there can be significant exceptions. Some Protestants, although material heretics, are in fact humble, and some Catholics are orthodox with little or no Marian piety. However, no man can be truly devoted to Our Lady and be a heretic. Moreover, formal heresy is defined as an error in the intellect and an obstinate will. It is particularly the latter from which Mary keeps us safe.

[5] I refuse to expose the reader to any further abuse of Our Lady from James Martin. Suffice it to say I have searched in vain for a substantial treatment or promotion of Marian devotion from Martin, and he admits in My Life with the Saints, p. 345ff., that his Marian devotion, which was shallow in his youth, was formed by the Jesuits as an imitation model, not the traditional, primarily mediatrix role. If his Marian devotion does go beyond sentimentality, let him publicly and explicitly disavow every heresy of which he is accused.

[6] See Rev. Ralph Wiltgen, The Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Augustine, 1979), 90ff.

[7] See Ibid., 234ff. The Rhine group was opposing Paul VI’s honoring of our Lady as “Mother of the Church” as well as his actions regarding collegiality, religious liberty, and ecumenism.

[8] See Benedict XVI, Last Testament, trans. Jacob Phillips (Bloomsbury, 2016), 70ff. As I have read more into Ratzinger, despite his obvious strengths, more of his theology has concerned me. This point was another red flag


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: maryworship; spanishinquisition
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To: ravenwolf
The Protestants believe Jesus was God in the flesh but deny that Mary was the mother of God, talk about hypocrictical.

Not at all.

GOD has no mother.

Jesus did.

The Holy Spirit is clear in Scripture in calling Mary *the mother of Jesus*.

John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

John 2:3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.”

Acts 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

621 posted on 08/09/2019 8:54:00 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: papertyger
Either in usage (see LXX and if you believe Mary had a sister named Mary) nor according to historical documents. The “brothers” of Jesus were the sons of Clopas, not Joseph.

Historical documents?

So what?

Show me from scripture.

622 posted on 08/09/2019 8:55:20 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: papertyger

I didn’t think you had anything.


623 posted on 08/09/2019 8:56:42 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: papertyger

So wearing the scapular saves people from hell.

Why did Jesus die then?


624 posted on 08/09/2019 8:57:23 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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625 posted on 08/09/2019 8:57:38 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: metmom
Is it true or not?

Why should you care? You've already proclaimed you are assured of your own salvation.

Sounds hypocritical to me.

Do you know the difference between hope and faith?

Do you know ths sin of presumption?

626 posted on 08/09/2019 8:59:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Elsie

One thing is certain, it is not the correct interpretation of scripture that saves.


627 posted on 08/09/2019 9:00:53 PM PDT by Freeborn
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To: metmom
Why did Jesus die then?

Do you think all human souls go to heaven?

If not, what makes you so special?

628 posted on 08/09/2019 9:03:06 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: metmom
Show me from scripture.

25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene.

John 19:25 | KJV

Now look up the word for “sister.”

Furthermore, something not being in Scripture doesn’t make you any less wrong about what Scripture is actually saying.

629 posted on 08/09/2019 9:04:20 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: metmom
So wearing the scapular saves people from hell.

Nope. That’s not what the promise says or means. I can’t help if you want to insist “thou shalt not kill” means you can’t defend yourself with deadly force, but you’d still be wrong.

630 posted on 08/09/2019 9:08:23 PM PDT by papertyger (Trump, A president so great, that Democrats who said they would leave America if he won, stayed!)
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To: ravenwolf

Naw, you’re just ignorant. Who existed first, God or Mary the mother of Jesus? A deeper issue, do you believe Mary the Mother of Jesus could impart Spirit Life to the being she conceived in her womb?


631 posted on 08/09/2019 9:21:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: papertyger

The Hebrew reads Thou shall not cmurder.


632 posted on 08/09/2019 9:31:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: papertyger

LO, did you even read what is promised on the idol shown in https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3770004/posts?page=619#619 ? Whirling dervishes got nothin’ on you tippy toppy.


633 posted on 08/09/2019 9:34:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ebb tide

I’m quite sure that you don’t know what the sin of presumption is. The Apostle defines it, and your definition is not the same as the Apostle’s in Romans 2. The Apostle’s definition of the sin of presumption is all about hypocrisy and condemning the sin in others that you yourself are committing.

Same way your definition of hope isn’t the same as the Apostle’s definition, because the Apostle defines hope as certainty.

I’ll take the definition of God through the pens of the Apostles over the false definitions, thanks.


634 posted on 08/09/2019 9:57:20 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Iscool
No more special than any other Christian...

I despise these 'Mary' threads...

Mary was recognized way back in Isaiah 7: 10Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying, 11Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above. 12But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD. 13And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? 14Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. 15Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. 16For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

Mary was/is special...

Luk 1:28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. highly favoured G5487 χαριτόω charitoō khar-ee-to'-o From G5485; to grace, that is, indue with special honor: - make accepted, be highly favoured. It was nothing that Mary did...It's what God did...Highly favoured comes from G5485 which is grace...

I would 'disagree', obviously the Heavenly Father already knew He could trust 'her'.

Mary was the one who was born at the right place at the right time...God imbued her with the grace to be a great devotee of God and acceptable to be the mother of Jesus...And because God chose her, she was blessed because of the grace God gave her...

Given what we are told about Mary and her 'cousin' Elizabeth, mother of John the Baptist, it is evident that the Heavenly Father was in control. Mary was conceived by 'earthly parents' (a mom and dad had 'sex') to bring forth Mary. There was nothing 'immaculate' about Mary's conception, except it took place on the Heavenly Father's time.

G5485 grace charis khar'-ece From G5463; graciousness (as gratifying), of manner or act (abstract or concrete; literal, figurative or spiritual; especially the divine influence upon the heart, and its reflection in the life; including gratitude): - acceptable, benefit, favour, gift, grace (-ious), joy liberality, pleasure, thank (-s, -worthy).

Given what the word 'grace' means I have NO clue why it garners the focus of Mary.

Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, Eph 1:6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Eph 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

Want to know 'when' Mary was 'elected/chosen', "before the foundation" of the world... Might want to dig into what those words actually refer to ... Genesis 1:2 and the casting down/ overthrow of Lucifer... Those that stood against the devil proclaiming himself 'god' are the 'elect/chosen' - 'saints'... God already chose them... and they have had a 'role' to play in the fulfillment of 'the Will of God'.

Paul did not 'recognize' Mary as a venerated 'deity', in Hebrews 2:14

Hebrews 2:14-15 14Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; 15And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.

This is the same highly favoured grace God gave to Mary...

Not one thing Peter penned goes to anyone but the Heavenly Father hearing prayers... in Christ's Holy Name. Some in their traditions have ground the 'rock' of Peter into mystical fairy dust.

635 posted on 08/09/2019 10:22:29 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ealgeone; papertyger; Iscool
That’s your first and primary mistake. You might as well claim you can become a competent doctor by reading enough medical books.

John sure seemed to think one could understand salvation by "just reading" what he wrote as moved by the Spirit.

13These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests which we have asked from Him. 1 John 5:13-15 NASB

And we also have this:

    Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book. But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in His name. (John 20:30,31)

636 posted on 08/09/2019 10:52:23 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: metmom

It is hard to find something you don’t want to find.


637 posted on 08/09/2019 11:38:27 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: MHGinTN

You dummy I have nothing to do with this belief, I have said
time and again that I don’t argue if Jesus is God in the flesh
or not because I don’t know.

But only that if jesus is God in the flesh Mary would have to
be his mother, just so simple. you


638 posted on 08/09/2019 11:47:12 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: metmom

Just what in the world does All of that have any thing
to do with it?,absolutly nothing.

As I have also made clear I do not know if Jesus was litterally
God in the flesh or not but if he was then Mary is the
mother of God.

You can not have it both ways.


639 posted on 08/09/2019 11:56:09 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: papertyger
Now you’re just being silly. My contention is you’re reading things into the Scriptures that aren’t there. “What” you’re reading into them is for YOU to say, not me.

Well I'm trying to find out what you are reading into those scriptures...What does your church read into those scriptures??? Maybe I'll learn something...

But let's be clear here...Those and the rest of the scriptures are given to us in 6th grade English and comprehension...We can read what they say and they mean what they say...It's pretty clear to me that we here ALL know what they say and mean...It's just that some of us don't LIKE what they say...

What those scriptures say and mean to me is that the scriptures (the written words of God) were written so that we can know (by reading and believing those words of scripture) exactly what is required for our salvation...

So what do you get from reading those scriptures???

640 posted on 08/10/2019 12:27:59 AM PDT by Iscool
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