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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

Marian devotion is the cure for heresy and the healing of all heretics. We must turn to her for refuge from the heretical depravity now consuming the Church. Marian devotion is the destruction of error, the fount of humility, and a potent safeguard for orthodox faith.

Mary Is the Destroyer of All Heresies

In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort writes:

The most infallible and indubitable sign by which we may distinguish a heretic, a man of bad doctrine, a reprobate, from one of the predestinate, is that the heretic and the reprobate have nothing but contempt and indifference for our Blessed Lady, endeavoring by their words and examples to diminish the veneration and love of her. (30)

In the Tract for the Mass Salve Sancta Parens, the Church sings, “Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou alone hast destroyed all heresies.” From this, Pope St. Pius X invoked her as “Destroyer of Heresies” in Pascendi 58. And again, it was in the context of St. Dominic’s war against heresy that the Holy Rosary, Mary’s psalter, was revealed.

Thus, it is manifest that Our Lady holds a special place in the relationship of Holy Church with heresy and heretics. Why is this? It is because the root cause of heresy is not anger, lust, or sloth, but pride. A formal heretic pridefully and obstinately rejects the authority of the Church and the authority of the Fathers. His whole opinion hinges on an imaginary antiquarianism created by his pride. And it is against the sin of pride that Our Lady most perfectly shows her power. This is why St. Louis says in another place:

[Satan] fears her not only more than all Angels and men, but in some sense more than God Himself … because Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and her humility humbles him more than the Divine power. (True Devotion, 52)

Demons and heretics fear her because she threatens to humble them. The latter impiously attack her under the pretense that they are safeguarding the honor due to God. In reality, they know that Mary will destroy their prideful opinions. “Humility is an abomination to the proud ” (Ecclus. 13:24).

How Mary Humbles the Proud

When the Holy Spirit exalted Mary by the mouth of St. Elizabeth, Mary said:

He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat and hath exalted the humble. (Lk. 1:51)

Devotion to Mary brings humility to the soul. Just as St. John heard her voice and leaped for joy, and St. Elizabeth immediately humbled herself, saying “Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk. 1:43), we too know this humility when we exalt Mary.

Mary humbles us because God wills that Jesus Christ be manifested to the world through her. According to nature, any man is her equal. According to grace and merit, she is “more honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim” [1]. In Mary, our humility is truly tested because she is a human, not God.

Humility toward God is presumed by all, and heretics falsely think themselves humble because they say they submit to God. But their pride is revealed when they refuse to submit to man — both legitimate authority and the sayings of the wise. “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsels” (Prov. 12:15).

A humble man may even debase himself before wicked men, as our Lord did.  But heretics have no humility toward men. In reality, heretics are attempting to impose their private opinion on all authorities. They have no humility toward any human but are consumed in their own selves. As the history of Protestantism has shown, it is easy to feign humility toward God while exalting yourself over every man. This is the way of all the heretics.

One who is humble toward Mary will be humble toward authority. Mary especially checks the pride of heretics by proclaiming that they cannot have their own private, “personal Jesus,” since our Lord has forever bound Himself to His mother by His incarnation. In the same way that the Incarnation is the foundation of our redemption — without which there can be no Passion or Resurrection — the human person of Jesus Christ cannot exist without the person of Mary [2]. As I have written in another place, true union with Christ will result in love of Mary as our mother, who was also the first natural cause of His appearance to the world.

Marian Devotion is a test for orthodoxy

Since Marian Devotion is the fount of humility, it becomes a powerful test for orthodoxy. For example, when St. John Vianney’s lack of intelligence presented a barrier to his ordination, he was evaluated like this:

The vicar-general asked the superior of the seminary: ‘Is young Vianney pious? Is he devoted to the Blessed Virgin?’ The authorities were able to assure him fully upon these points. ‘Then,’ said the vicar-general, ‘I will receive him. Divine grace will do the rest.’ [3]

And so the Church ordained the future patron of parish priests. Sometimes it is as simple as asking if a man has Marian devotion. If a man is truly devoted to our Lady, he can be no heretic. St. Louis again:

“If you follow her,” says St. Bernard, “you cannot wander from the road.” Fear not, therefore, that a true child of Mary can be deceived by the evil one, or fall into any formal heresy. There where the guidance of Mary is, neither the evil spirit with his illusions, nor the heretics with their subtleties, can ever come — Ipsa tenente, non corruis. (True Devotion, 209) [4]

Thus, it is unsurprising that when we read through Building a Bridge by James Martin, S.J., a book purported to be about mercy and compassion, not a single page mentions the Mother of mercy and compassion. In fact, on page 130, he even erroneously asserts that at the Resurrection, Mary Magdalene was the first Christian, implicitly denying our Lady and the entire tradition of her Saturday memorial in which her sole faithfulness is commemorated. The examples of his warped or deficient Marian piety are only too easy to find [5].

But it is even more disturbing when we read how the Rhine group at Vatican II successfully suppressed the document on the Mother of God, relegating it, by a narrow vote, to the final section in Lumen Gentium (against the protests from Eastern Catholic bishops and others) [6]. When their efforts to suppress Marian devotion were opposed by Paul VI (to his credit), the time became known to them as “Black Week” [7]. Perhaps more alarming, Ratzinger himself admits that his Marian piety was weak in Last Testament and seems to imply the false dichotomy that Marian piety is not Christocentric [8]. Without succumbing to the sin of rash judgment, it is nevertheless suggestive that this lack of Marian piety correlates with an apparent hubris on the part of many Vatican II “reformers.”

Whatever the true state of these and other men with an apparent reluctance to love and honor their own mother, we can be certain that our Blessed Lady is a sure refuge from heresy. As Fr. Ripperger has stated, without a strong intellectual formation, everyone becomes a Modernist in our corrupt society. That is why we must cling to Our Lady for refuge from heretics and heresy in our time.

True devotion to Mary keeps us safe from the excesses of pride. Even more in our day, let us consider: she stood firm, though she witnessed the Passion and death of our Lord. We also must stand firm, even as we are witnessing the passion and death of the Church. Moreover, it seems clear from her frequent apparitions since the 19th century that Our Lord has purposed His mother for a special role in resolving this crisis. Let us pray our daily rosary and make the First Saturdays. Let us abide with Our Lady in the Passion of the Church and never lose hope for the Glorious Resurrection.


[1] Eastern Catholic Marian antiphon

[2] So too the mediation of the Sacraments — through another human — we receive our Lord.

[3] The Life of Saint John Vianney, The Curé of Ars, ch. 1

[4] It should be noted that Marian devotion is not an infallible test for orthodoxy, but merely a general rule against which there can be significant exceptions. Some Protestants, although material heretics, are in fact humble, and some Catholics are orthodox with little or no Marian piety. However, no man can be truly devoted to Our Lady and be a heretic. Moreover, formal heresy is defined as an error in the intellect and an obstinate will. It is particularly the latter from which Mary keeps us safe.

[5] I refuse to expose the reader to any further abuse of Our Lady from James Martin. Suffice it to say I have searched in vain for a substantial treatment or promotion of Marian devotion from Martin, and he admits in My Life with the Saints, p. 345ff., that his Marian devotion, which was shallow in his youth, was formed by the Jesuits as an imitation model, not the traditional, primarily mediatrix role. If his Marian devotion does go beyond sentimentality, let him publicly and explicitly disavow every heresy of which he is accused.

[6] See Rev. Ralph Wiltgen, The Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Augustine, 1979), 90ff.

[7] See Ibid., 234ff. The Rhine group was opposing Paul VI’s honoring of our Lady as “Mother of the Church” as well as his actions regarding collegiality, religious liberty, and ecumenism.

[8] See Benedict XVI, Last Testament, trans. Jacob Phillips (Bloomsbury, 2016), 70ff. As I have read more into Ratzinger, despite his obvious strengths, more of his theology has concerned me. This point was another red flag


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: maryworship; spanishinquisition
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To: Al Hitan
Oh, is that why Martin Luther believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary?

Marty was a die hard Catholic, with all its baggage...Some bad habits are hard to break...He never left the Church...The Church left him...

741 posted on 08/10/2019 4:25:51 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mom MD
Luther corrected a lot of the errors in the catholic church. He did not get them all.

So, you're saying the Lutheran Confession is in error and shouldn't be referenced? And you agree that the reason Martin Luther believed in the perpetual virginity of the Mother of God was: "Because sex is EEEEEEEEEVIL"?

742 posted on 08/10/2019 4:31:45 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

did I say any such thing? As a life long Lutheran I never heard about the perpetual virginity of Mary until I started talking to catholics. It is not in the catechism and not part of formal Lutheran doctrine. It is not the Lutheran position that sex outside of marriage is eeevil. If you truly want to know more about Lutheran doctrine you can start with the Augsburg confession .


743 posted on 08/10/2019 4:58:19 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD; metmom
I would stop feeding the troll.....

Good point.

744 posted on 08/10/2019 5:02:47 PM PDT by Mark17 (Master Sgt, US Air Force, retired. Air traffic controller. Father of US Air Force 2nd Lieutenant)
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To: Mom MD
It is not the Lutheran position that sex outside of marriage is eeevil.

Nice diversion. As you can see if you read the posts, the discussion was not about sex outside of marriage.

If you truly want to know more about Lutheran doctrine you can start with the Augsburg confession .

Thanks. The next time a Lutheran refers us to the Book of Concord, as has happened on FR multiple times, I'll tell them the same and that the Book of Concord is erroneous, as you've pointed out.

745 posted on 08/10/2019 5:06:24 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

The book of Concord was not written by Luther but contains the doctrine of the Lutheran Church. It is not scripture and therefore is not inerrant. Only catholics raise their writings to the level of scripture the rest of us do not. But if you want to know Lutheran doctrine I suggest you start with Luther’s small catechism and the Augsburg confession for basics the. move on to the book of concord if you are still interested. However since you just want to play gotcha it hardly seems to be worth the effort on your part


746 posted on 08/10/2019 5:11:55 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Al Hitan

I know. Sex outside of marriage is sin and therefore evil. Sex inside marriage is a beautiful gift from God. I was pointing out the difference. According to scripture Mary would have been wrong to deny Joseph sex once Christ was born.


747 posted on 08/10/2019 5:14:47 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Al Hitan; Mom MD
Oh, is that why Martin Luther believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary?

Because he had grown up being indoctrinated by Rome.

God does not correct all ones errors immediately on salvation.

There's growth in the Christian life and learning more about God and the Truth as one spends time in His Word.

As a believer does that, the Holly Spirit will reveal to the believer what HE knows the believer needs to know and deal with in HIS time.

Growth in the Christian walk is a very individual thing and God does not cram us all into a box and make cookie cutter Christians.

748 posted on 08/10/2019 5:35:37 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: mostly_lies

The last words Jesus spoke directly to Mary in the Scripture were

“Woman”(not THEOTOKOS) “what is this to you and what to me?”

Not quite so.

John 19:26-27 when Jesus saw his mother there, and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to her, “Woman, here is your son,” 27 and to the disciple, “Here is your mother.” From that time on, this disciple took her into his home.

we can see very plain that Jesus was her only child.


749 posted on 08/10/2019 5:35:57 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

She doesn’t have sin. She seeks a savior because of her humility....................

True.


750 posted on 08/10/2019 5:35:57 PM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Al Hitan
But wait, he broke his vows, and got married. And had children. So, that doesn't make sense.

Why is that an issue.

The Catholic church had ex-communicated him.

Why would those vows mean anything at that point?

I don't see that anyone needs to be held to vows they make to someone who has sent him packing.

751 posted on 08/10/2019 5:37:10 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ravenwolf

No, the passage at Calvary shows that His brothers and sisters had turned away from Him as He drew the ire of the Sanhedrin. James IS THE brother of Jesus. Is James older or younger than Jesus? When you finish reading the entire Bible, perhaps you will have a different take on this issue.


752 posted on 08/10/2019 5:41:07 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Please stop feeding the troll


753 posted on 08/10/2019 5:41:53 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
Sex outside of marriage is sin and therefore evil.

It is not the Lutheran position that sex outside of marriage is eeevil.

You do understand that these two statements of yours, from separate posts, don't agree?

The book of Concord was not written by Luther but contains the doctrine of the Lutheran Church. It is not scripture and therefore is not inerrant.

It is good to know that Lutherans agree your doctrine is in error.

754 posted on 08/10/2019 5:44:47 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

I misposted thank you for correcting my error. it is not the Lutheran position that sex inside marriage is evil

As to your other point as a lifelong Lutheran I have never been taught the perpetual virginity of Mary. It is simply not taught. Every church I have been a member of has acknowledged that Christ has bothers and sisters

There may be errors in Luther’s theology but far less than in catholic theology. Before you break you arm patting yourself on the back Paul said we all see through a glass darkly. Luther got the biggest one right and God used him to reform the church that was in grievous error. Salvation is by grace through faith alone period. No works can add one iota. The solas of the Lutheran reformation stand as a ringing clarion call across the ages to return to Biblical Truth away from the error and heresy of the Roman Church.


755 posted on 08/10/2019 5:55:01 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ravenwolf

Don’t take the Mark when it is commanded to you, regardless of what signs and lying wonders are accompanying the command.


756 posted on 08/10/2019 5:58:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN
Why weren’t the brothers and sisters of Jesus at the cross? We can only speculate. My speculation, for whatever it is worth. Maybe they didn’t want to see all the blood and gore. I think it’s possible that none of them were true believers yet. At least 2 became believers later, James and Jude, and I hope all of them did. Maybe more likely, Jesus’ brothers and sisters, were afraid the Jewish leaders would have them crucified as well.
We will never know what their thinking was.
757 posted on 08/10/2019 6:05:46 PM PDT by Mark17 (Master Sgt, US Air Force, retired. Air traffic controller. Father of US Air Force 2nd Lieutenant)
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To: metmom

And time has told. I see we have our answer


758 posted on 08/10/2019 6:06:56 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD

I cannot disagree.


759 posted on 08/10/2019 6:23:49 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Al Hitan

As fun as it would be to see how long it’d take you to break down into profanity like the other Roman on the thread, I have better things to do than to play your little gotcha games.


760 posted on 08/10/2019 6:27:41 PM PDT by Luircin
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