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[Catholic Caucus] BREAKING - IMPORTANT - Summorum Under Threat? - Holy See sends survey to Bishops on Summorum Pontificum (Exclusive)
Rorate Caeli ^ | April 23, 2020 | New Catholic

Posted on 04/23/2020 10:41:03 AM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] BREAKING - IMPORTANT - Summorum Under Threat? - Holy See sends survey to Bishops on Summorum Pontificum (Exclusive)

Could the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum, that recognized the rights and continuity of the Traditional Latin Rite, be under threat?

When the motu proprio was first published, there was a period of consultations of three years. It was defined by Pope Benedict XVI in his accompanying letter to bishops: "Furthermore, I invite you, dear Brothers, to send to the Holy See an account of your experiences, three years after this Motu Proprio has taken effect. If truly serious difficulties come to light, ways to remedy them can be sought." This was done, and the result was the mostly positive 2011 Instruction.

Quite strangely, now, 13 years after Summorum, when it has become a permanent part of the life of the Church in many places throughout the world, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), now responsible for Summorum, has sent out a new survey for bishops on the application of Summorum Pontificum, because, "His Holiness Pope Francis wishes to be informed about the current application of the aforementioned document."

It could be ominous. The questions seem neutral, but, once one reads them carefully, they may indicate serious consequences.

Rorate has received copies of both documents that were sent, and that had been unknown to the faithful up to this moment: the March 7, 2020, letter of the Prefect of CDF  to the Presidents of the Episcopal Conferences, and the questions to bishops asked in the April 2020 survey itself -- the due date is July 31, 2020.

Both documents are below (click to open larger and more readable view for both documents):


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1 posted on 04/23/2020 10:41:03 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; kalee; markomalley; ...

Ping


2 posted on 04/23/2020 10:41:56 AM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Ugh


3 posted on 04/23/2020 11:19:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ebb tide

More attacks on conservative Catholics

I haven’t heard the Mass in Latin since the mid-1960s, but I respect those who choose to continue to do so.


4 posted on 04/23/2020 11:36:56 AM PDT by kidd
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To: ebb tide

Domino monopoly parcheesi


5 posted on 04/23/2020 11:46:00 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: ebb tide

Domino monopoly parcheesi


6 posted on 04/23/2020 11:46:09 AM PDT by HonorInPa
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To: ebb tide
Wow. I don't like this at all.

If the extraordinary form is practiced there, does it respond to a true pastoral need or is it promoted by a single priest?

Poisoned-well question. "Is this just the work of some out-of-control fanatic? People don't actually want it, do they?"

Does it occur to you that, in your diocese, the ordinary form has adopted elements of the extraordinary form?

Does it occur to the Holy See that ad orientem and the use of Gregorian chant are licit and even preferred elements of the ordinary form?

7 posted on 04/23/2020 12:10:40 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: ebb tide

Super-Fun Rock Band Parish Music directors jumping for joy !!!
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“We don’t need no stinkin’ boring, contemplative worship of the liturgies.... WE NEED TO BE ENTERTAINING !!!!”


8 posted on 04/23/2020 1:20:36 PM PDT by MurphsLaw ("We are Easter people...")
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Wow. I don't like this at all.

They have been working on this for awhile. You could see it coming 10 miles away, and now that they have locked things down, its an opportunity for them fast track this without very many watching or being able to protest it or speak out. The apostasy is on full display, Satan is having his hour, however our Lord will have his day.
9 posted on 04/23/2020 2:46:51 PM PDT by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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Does it occur to you that, in your diocese, the ordinary form has adopted elements of the extraordinary form?

Yet the same people behind this questionnaire now want to incorporate ancient pagan rituals into a new Amazonian Novus Ordo Mass.

10 posted on 04/23/2020 4:23:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: HonorInPa

Please don’t violate catholic caucuses.


11 posted on 04/28/2020 8:27:50 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Thank you, E.T., for a helpful reminder of the caucus ground rules.


12 posted on 04/28/2020 8:33:45 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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And thank you, E.T., for making this important point: The inclusion of the so-called pachamama in ceremonies in Rome is something that wouldn't have been contemplated in other dioceses, not even in the Amazon basin.
13 posted on 04/28/2020 8:36:40 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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