Posted on 10/24/2020 10:27:39 PM PDT by robowombat
Your thoughts on forgiving Donald Trump
Oct 23, 2020 by NCR Staff Opinion
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In the latest Soul Seeing column, Mike Leach talks about how he need to forgive President Donald Trump, even though it's hard to do so. "How do I forgive someone I don't even know but who drives me nuts every time I see him boast and lie and cheat?" he writes. Following are letters to the editor responding to the column. The letters have been edited for length and clarity. You can join the conversation by following the guidelines below.
I have a few thoughts for Michael Leach about forgiving President Donald Trump.
Try walking in the shoes of the president of the United States. When he supposedly heard news of the pandemic and didn't immediately report it, don't you believe it may have been a prudent decision considering the millions of people that would have gone into sheer panic? It was new news that needed to be discerned and researched further before making a widespread announcement. And there still would have been those that didn't believe it and kept doing what they were doing. It was inevitable that many people would have died either way.
mail-2237468.jpgLetters to the Editor As of this date, numbers are spiking like crazy. Everyone knows about COVID-19 and they're out partying anyway. I suppose that's Trump's fault too? How is that? The opposite side wants to and erroneously prove that everything wrong in the world is because of the current president. God knows the man is not perfect and neither are you, me and everyone. As for dissension in our country, that started way before Trump had an inkling of becoming president. The president's job is to protect this country.
How has Trump ignited violence? It is the cities and states that have allowed their cities to be torn down and have allowed violent groups to literally get away with murder at the expense of the lives of many good people and law enforcement. Again, this violence was brewing and active way before Trump became president.
I have heard my Christian liberal friends say, "I hate Donald Trump. I hate him, I hate him, I hate him." These are the very people who proudly display the sign in their front lawns stating, "Hate has no home here." Really? That is so hypocritical. Who has room for that?
So the president has a controversial personality. Live with it. Probably some don't like your personality. Who are we to cast a stone on anyone? Chew on that and peace be with you.
MAUREEN O'NEILL-LASZLO Valley City, Ohio
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I am voting for President Donald Trump because he supports school choice, congressional term limits, strong military, limited government and ending excessive regulation.
He supports, more than any other president, the rights of the unborn and to tell the world America is a land of good people.
HERB HARKINS Palm City, Florida
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Michael Leach challenges all rational beings to have the need to forgive President Donald Trump. In his confession he urges us to be more God-like. That's a tall order, indeed, when the object of that forgiveness tells one and all that he doesn't need our forgiveness because his sins are at best venial — so minor that he doesn't see why he could possibly need to ask for our mercy.
I, like so many others, struggle perpetually with the two-edged sword of forgiveness: an ardent wish to be able to "forgive those who have trespassed against us" while at the same time desperately needing absolution for the "things I have done and failed to do."
The Code of Canon Law 987 tells us one "must reject sins committed and have a purpose of amendment." Trump neither acknowledges his sins nor has any inclination of correcting his behavior. It would therefore seem he does not meet the requirements for reconciliation.
JOHN C. TUFFY Endwell, New York
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Jesus said to forgive 70 times 7 times. President Donald Trump gives me this opportunity every day. I know I will be judged as I judge.
Between my country and the organizational church, I pray God will be merciful to me a sinner. I have voted and I have closed the door on this. I pray God spare me from doing this with my church since birth.
JANE FRANCISCO Charlotte, North Carolina
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The 20th century German martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote about forgiveness in this manner: "Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession, absolution without personal confession. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate."
The theological question then becomes: How can one forgive someone who claims to have no need for it?
LOUIS J. REITH Seward, Nebraska
What does DJT done as a public figure that requires forgiveness? Putting America First
I still struggle with the idea of forgiving my church. My faith only survives because I don’t believe men are infallible, only God is.
He doesn’t need their forgiveness. They can F Off.
The lies and cheats are fake news lying to you. It ain’t boasting if you can do it.
How about that?
There are those who believe Donald Trump is a gift to the USA from God. I am among those who believe this is so.
Some say not so, he is a flawed man! Those people have never read The Bible.
God Almighty has often used flawed but strong men for His purposes. Empowering such men with His might in the face of pure evil and for His Glory.
And, furthermore, He has often required them to face overwhelming odds with little to no help. Thus, further demonstrating His Might and His Purpose.
And, again, I must point to the Old Testament for many examples of this.
Those people are so full of themselves.
It’s disgusting.
Sin of pride, among others.
Who am I to offer Trump forgiveness.He has not wronged me. I certainly would not want my own child to be like Trump, but he is neither my son nor my father. I want a President who puts the interest of the country above all else. I don’t need a saint.
It is Obama and Biden who should be asking me for forgiveness, not Trump.
Pretty much.
The Catholic Church has turned into the church of Satan and the Pope is worse than Lucifer himself.
If they want to pray for forgiveness for anyone, they can pray for forgiveness for this nasty terrible Pope, one of the most evil humans on the planet.
And how hard is it to forgive Joe Biden?
CAN WE STOP POSTING ALL THIS NEVER TRUMP CRAP.....
“Classic sanctimony from Marxist passing as Christians.”
EXACTLY. Great eye. Thanks for posting, robowombat. Who is separating us from us? Us from them? Them from them?
The National Catholic Register is of no relevance whatsoever.
They can go take a bloody jump.
I will forgive him, and myself. All I wish is that he continues to fight for us, and really push hard. Harder than we have ever seen before.
Piece of cake???
Comments BUMP!
Face - WORDS - Deeds
Oct 23, 2020 by NCR Staff Opinion
Name, names? Sure...
https://www.ncronline.org/national-catholic-reporter-staff-contributors
Every WORD has a thought, mouth, face and individual attached to it. Know them by their words.
Holier than thou.
Virtue signalers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRMf3wKBCPo
I totally agree. The Marxists have penetrated and gained almost total control of all news media in this country and that includes even the “Christian media”. The leftists are sick and have absolutely no shame.
Why is this a church? Has it been two straight decades of rape scandals? And now with a criminally insane pope? I only hear negative from congregants.
Belief, faith, values.. all personal stuff. No doubt the world is better for the pursuit.
Just a stranger and pilgrim here, hoping the years after my death are precisely reminiscent of the years before.
Forgive those who deserve forgiveness. Support for the EVIL is TREASON to the innocent. JUDGE and expect to be judged. By these mortals? Yeah, ok.
FUJB
ESAD
What ideology/thought process over-rides the brains of these “catholics”...this collective?
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